[jmi22]

Thread has been quiet for some time so I don't know if views have changed, but just interested to hear reasons this site should be parkland. I'd be happy either way and likely frequent the park if built, but this area is one of the best served downtown in terms of parks. Moss Park, St. James Park, the park at the southside of the Church in question, and the TMU Community Park (which is admittedly rarely used by the public due to its enclosed nature) are all within two minutes walking distance of this site.

 

[thecharioteer]

Thread has been quiet for some time so I don't know if views have changed, but just interested to hear reasons this site should be parkland. I'd be happy either way and likely frequent the park if built, but this area is one of the best served downtown in terms of parks. Moss Park, St. James Park, the park at the southside of the Church in question, and the TMU Community Park (which is admittedly rarely used by the public due to its enclosed nature) are all within two minutes walking distance of this site.
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The justification for a park here would be on urbanistic grounds, not on whether the area is deficient in parkland. It would be framed by two of the most historic churches in the city (though one wishes the rear of the Metropolitan had been rebuilt according to the original design after its disastrous fire in 1929) as well as the street wall of buildings on the east side of Church. It also was originally landscaped open space and one gets a sense in the old photos of how appealing the greening of the space could be. Finally, the value of the land would be determined by what could be built there. If the flight path has "down-zoned" the site to a mid-rise, then that is its value. With the depression in land prices, the timing would be perfect now, assuming the Church wants to sell at all.

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[jmi22]

The justification for a park here would be on urbanistic grounds, not on whether the area is deficient in parkland. It would be framed by two of the most historic churches in the city (though one wishes the rear of the Metropolitan had been rebuilt according to the original design after its disastrous fire in 1929) as well as the street wall of buildings on the east side of Church. It also was originally landscaped open space and one gets a sense in the old photos of how appealing the greening of the space could be. Finally, the value of the land would be determined by what could be built there. If the flight path has "down-zoned" the site to a mid-rise, then that is its value. With the depression in land prices, the timing would be perfect now, assuming the Church wants to sell at all.

Goad Atlas 1913:
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Ahh I see now, yes that would be quite nice to have some beautiful public church grounds on Church Street

 

[Northern Light]

So I have some very dated info, LOL

As I was musing about this site again recently...........and went digging again.

I did not come up with anything new, per se; but I did find something new to this thread.

From October 2020:

Shuter Street Development Update

In March 2020, Metropolitan partnered with Colliers, a well-respected real estate broker, to explore development possibilities for the north end of the property. Since then, the congregation has been surveyed to establish preferred development parameters, environmental studies have been completed...

www.metunited.org

From the above:

A further note, @Paclo in light of the above, and the fact that the Lancer Development website is non existent, I think we have to reclassify this one.