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Don't understand why developers can't anticipate significant areas like this that are going to need to be spandrel and just proactively integrate them into the design and make them precast instead.

Is the promotional render value of showing full-glass walls just super high and people working on these designs are being overly hopeful and deceiving themselves about what's possible? Or is it just legitimately hard to predict in advance what areas will need to be blocked off?
 
Don't understand why developers can't anticipate significant areas like this that are going to need to be spandrel and just proactively integrate them into the design and make them precast instead.

Is the promotional render value of showing full-glass walls just super high and people working on these designs are being overly hopeful and deceiving themselves about what's possible? Or is it just legitimately hard to predict in advance what areas will need to be blocked off?
The renderings are created long before the construction drawings are, so in this case it may not have been known at what height they would eventually install the ceilings on that commercial level, something that they wouldn't be looking to lease out until long after the building was going up. As the whole building has turned out to be rental, commercial to the 4th floor and residential above, those renderings in the end will only have ever been presented to the City, where they carry no weight in gaining the building its zoning approval. I doubt the developer would have given much more than a moment's concern to the spandrel, not worried that it might result in them not being able to lease the space out in the end, so up it's gone after decisions about the ceiling were made, long after the renderings were rendered.

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Yeah, the detailing here is pretty dreadful. At least 411 King will eventually cover up the north side of it. Maybe someday there will be something to redevelop the gas station to the south of it to block out that side.
 

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