ushahid
Senior Member
^i dont think this will get any taller than this.
LUVIT!
Senior Member
Perhaps have it taller with setbacks. It looks like a 70’s slab currently.
RickyBobby
Active Member
I actually think a big issue is going to be elevators. They probably cant chop width without chopping height. The whole north wall is elevators. Each elevator they cut chops off ~40,000 SF of leasable area service.
I suppose they could move towards a traditional core on low-rise, but it is pretty narrow north-south.
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ptbotrmpfn
Senior Member
All for a redesign here
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Superstar
I'd take this back anytime... https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2014/03/allied-reit-proposes-48-storey-union-centre-york-front
LUVIT!
Senior Member
I agree AG
3Dementia
Senior Member
30 second scribble- lose one vertical volume, taller building, taller irregular setbacks
RickyBobby
Active Member
I'm not sure they will be able to do this and still elevator the tower properly.
3Dementia
Senior Member
Before:
https://cdn.skyrisecities.com/sites/default/files/images/projects/9576/9576-122222.jpeg
Yeah I shoulda spent another 30 seconds on engineering implications ;-)
https://cdn.skyrisecities.com/sites/default/files/images/projects/9576/9576-122222.jpeg
Yeah I shoulda spent another 30 seconds on engineering implications ;-)
RickyBobby
Active Member
Looks way better though ...
Personally, I'd keep the width. Why should every building have the same profile? That said, I'd like to see one gesture added to the south-facing wall, but I'm not sure what. Something simple, elegant.
Regarding this University Avenue image: they faked it, and I think that did them in—Union Centre is pulled too far to the east in this image, over-emphasizing its effect on the University Avenue view.
A pile of buildings have been PhotoChopped out of that (weirdly zoomed, artificially constructed) image so that they can move the building east to display the elevators.
If you note the buildings on the left above, framing the view, you have to go a long way north on University to add them to the picture.
To have the Shangri-La and the Hilton dominate like they do in the rendering, you have to shoot from Queen…
And even there, to emphasize the buildings down at Front, I have to grab just the centre of that image…
…where you see what's really behind the Shangri-La and what will block most of the University view of Union Centre, namely the glassy Sun Life Financial Centre. Union Centre wold wrap around it to the left and above—with a gap between the Citi Building and it. Not that big a deal from the north.
Thank you Google Street View for existing!
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Regarding this University Avenue image: they faked it, and I think that did them in—Union Centre is pulled too far to the east in this image, over-emphasizing its effect on the University Avenue view.
A pile of buildings have been PhotoChopped out of that (weirdly zoomed, artificially constructed) image so that they can move the building east to display the elevators.
If you note the buildings on the left above, framing the view, you have to go a long way north on University to add them to the picture.
To have the Shangri-La and the Hilton dominate like they do in the rendering, you have to shoot from Queen…
And even there, to emphasize the buildings down at Front, I have to grab just the centre of that image…
…where you see what's really behind the Shangri-La and what will block most of the University view of Union Centre, namely the glassy Sun Life Financial Centre. Union Centre wold wrap around it to the left and above—with a gap between the Citi Building and it. Not that big a deal from the north.
Thank you Google Street View for existing!
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otiselevator9439
New Member
Will the roof top open to the public? And how does the elevator in this building layout will be
isaidso
Senior Member
I was starting to think I was the only one that appreciated its girth. We need a few big heavy imposing buildings. They help anchor the places they exist in and give these areas a sense of permanence. It's imposing presence at the southern end of University Avenue is/was terrific. It unapologetically bookended this view corridor... and to great effect.
dowlingm
Senior Member
If this goes ahead soon, and I am judging the proximity of the site correctly, it might provide an imperative for moving the UPX lounge/platform as Metrolinx mused about this week; my assumption is that construction would be simpler if it could be dispensed with so that even if the space itself was not intruded upon, access routes would not have to be maintained.
As for 151 Front - nervous times indeed. Any unintended disruption there would be a massive pain point for business here and beyond.
As for 151 Front - nervous times indeed. Any unintended disruption there would be a massive pain point for business here and beyond.
MetroMan
Senior Member
Metrolinx has already come out and said that they're not moving UPX after all. It's too expensive and would have too much of an impact on boarding times. Union Centre will have to maintain access to the PATH anyway.