Skeezix
Senior Member
Especially since it wasn't his fault, except insofar that Council as a whole made bad decisions.
That's something difficult to figure out. Asian friends would go to T&T to do their groceries even though they live within 2 km of North York Centre. I think it has to do with selections. The mainstream items (milk, pasta, bread) they get from the mainstream grocers.Just curious -- what is not available around here (grocery-wise) that someone absolutely must drive elsewhere to get it?
In the beginning, my wife and I had always lived in the suburbs and had multiple cars. When we bought our first house in the area, we decided on one car since I was the only one driving to work (the wife took the subway downtown). As traffic grew, I quit driving and started cycling to work, even in the winter. One of the best decisions in my life!Indeed. We will do anything to avoid driving somewhere. I not only value my time and convenience, but also the costs of gas, wear and tear, and the frustration/horror show that is driving in Toronto/GTA. Our goal is to eventually get rid of the car and use car sharing and transit. Someday.
Longos' prices and selection are on par with Loblaws and Metro. The closest one you can check out is at York Mills and Leslie. They also have a smaller Market store format downtown (comparable to Rabba?).I'm truly looking forward to the renewed Sheppard Centre. I'll look forward to having another grocery store at Sheppard (Whole Foods isn't my scene) although I'm not too familiar with Longos' prices and selection.
I didn't know the extent of Filion's involvement, my mistake. Hoping this mismanagement isn't repeated in the planned market at NYCC.It's a textbook example of a municipality taking a good idea and mismanaging it with terrible results.
I think peak times vary in an urban vs suburban setting. I think in a more urban setting, like Empress, people don't drive as much and their busy period is usually after work and before dinner . Out in the burbs, like T&T land, people tend to wait after rush hour to do their shopping and/or stock up for the week. Also, I'm guessing many of their customers with weak English skills might not have regular 9-5 shifts, or people running their own business can only shop in the late evenings.There's a reason why a T&T can be crowded with customers at 10pm, but the Loblaws at Empress Walk is near dead at the same time.
I live on the Yonge "strip" and don't own a car but rather use a car sharing service for the odd time that I do need to drive somewhere off the TTC grid.
We've now weaned away from our car and are now on carshare and weekend rentals (we're still walking, cycling, and on TTC). I'm loving the new cars with bluetooth, backup cameras and heated seats!
The largest ethnic demographic in NorthYorkCentre are Korean, Persian and Chinese,.... where do they shop for their "ethnic" grocery?
Loblaws, usually, in the aisle beside the beer & wine.
Just curious -- what is not available around here (grocery-wise) that someone absolutely must drive elsewhere to get it?
BTW,.... As I already stated, the new Longos at YongeSheppardCentre will only survive by stealing customers away from other generic supermarkets in the area,... since the area's demographic shows that generic market is really a lot smaller than most folks think,.... longer term, I predict the Longos would never thrive but just barely survive (right now, Longos head-office should be considering walking away),... HullmarkCentre's WholeFoodsMarket will be gone (likely sometimes between 2019 to 2024).
On what basis?
http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/thread...is-rosario-varacalli.4829/page-72#post-757232Let's use a time machine,... there used to be THREE large supermarkets here at Yonge&Sheppard,... in the mid-1970s! Miracle at south-east corner of Yonge & Sheppard, Loblaws at north-east corner of Yonge & SpringGarden, and Dominion the lower level of the brand new SheppardCentre when it first opened in 1976.
Why might this be relevant today,... well, just like Loblaw`s T&T was supposed to be the original anchor tenant at EmeraldPark,... back in 1976 when SheppardCentre opened, Loblaws was supposed to be the original anchor tenant in the lower level,... but they decided to stay at their Yonge&SpringGarden location. So Dominion opened up in the lower level of SheppardCentre,... how long did that Dominion last,.... Only ONE year! Why,... not enough customers,... it was a terrible location! SheppardCentre does NOT have any street level parking lot,... the current parking entrance for SheppardCentre is on Doris south of GreenField, near the apartment buildings!
Whereas, the Miracle and Loblaws had street level parking lots highly visible from Yonge Street.
Oh,... EmeraldPark won't have visible street level parking lot either,.. but then either will HullmarkCentre nor does SheppardCentre,... so none would have a clear advantage this time. Then it comes down to location, Location, LOCATION,... and as I stated before EmeraldPark has the worst location of the 3,... EmeraldPark really needed a niche,... like ethnic mall to serve the local demographic. Lets see how long the EmeraldPark Metro lasts,.... especially if and when RioCan bring in a couple of major anchors to SheppardCentre,... major anchors as in a Walmart or another grocery store. The next few years should be interesting around here,...
BTW,... for the history buff,... we keep on referring to the Miracle, then Dominion, then Metro at the south-east corner of Yonge & Sheppard,... but before Miracle,.. it was a Grand Union (New Jersey chain that was acquired by Tops Supermarket in US),... and then Steinberg`s,... and later renamed Miracle.
http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/thread...-riocan-quadrangle.17901/page-15#post-1166150Demolition phase of SheppardCentre seems to be over,.... construction started,... right now along Yonge Street frontage,... cutting the crap out of the cement slabs between lower level and upper level of mall,... seems to be for the smaller northern Yonge frontage entrance - interior lobby/hallway stairs area,.... see that huge hole in the floor in front of the guy in yellow pants - that hole was cut!!! Also notice the new reinforcement support beam above his head.
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That hole and reinforcement support beam wasn't there in my previous photo taken last month from the same angle! And shown here,.....
http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/thread...-riocan-quadrangle.17901/page-14#post-1157364
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Look carefully and you'll see a couple of these huge round disc cement cutters machines
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Discussions about ethnic food availability in the North York Centre area belongs in "Toronto Issues" or "General Discussions."I know. @interchange42 told them to stop, but they haven't.
Too bad RioCan isn't building any tiny PacificMall-type cubicle stores here
Too bad RioCan isn't building any tiny PacificMall-type cubicle stores here,... these concrete squares looks to be about the right size and could have been re-used,...
Because those are doing so well across the street, right?
.... this will allow those generic fake ethnic restaurants like BasilBox and Chipotle to be perfectly flat throughout and lined up with street-level on Yonge Street.
Mmmmm,..... Stack of concrete waffle squares,.... Yummy!,.... Let Go My Eggo,..... where's the fake ethnic Aunt Jemima syrup? Or generic Maple syrup?
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