denfromoakvillemilton
Senior Member
Why all these new Condos if we don't have the proper transit for them? How can we be adding more people downtown if we don't have the transportation infrastructure for it.
Why all these new Condos if we don't have the proper transit for them? How can we be adding more people downtown if we don't have the transportation infrastructure for it.
People have to move somewhere. The city is growing. If we dump these new residents into the suburbs our road networks cant absorb them either. The roads are at near capacity. So even though we dont have the transit the reality is at least if they are close enough downtown they may be able to walk to work. It may look like chaos but it would be far worse if the new residents were forced deep into the suburbs.
Why all these new Condos if we don't have the proper transit for them? How can we be adding more people downtown if we don't have the transportation infrastructure for it.
Because there already is a strain on public transit. I've lived in the downtown for the past 20 years and have a noticed a condiserable decline. Urbanization is great but without the proper infrastructure it is a disaster in the making. I think any condo developer who wants to build along the Yonge/University or Bloor Subway Line should be subject to special tax levy that is dedicated to funding the building of a downtown relief line (as the first priority) and future subway/transit expansion of other lines. Developers can afford it they are making a killing in the current market and we are just giving our city a way for free.
Unfortunately, Toronto has a way of only improving transit when things start to come to a breaking point. We didn't build the Yonge subway proactively to keep up the quality of our system in anticipation of future demand; we built the subway when every streetcar was packed with people and crawling along its route: when the system started to decline because of the strain of ridership. The way I see it, the only way we'll get better transit infrastructure is as we approach the breaking point when the situation becomes desperate and the service declines. There are people who even see this uncomfortable situation as normal, that rational transit expansion follows this pattern: badly overcrowded buses, badly overcrowded light rail, badly overcrowded subway, new subway line, and so on. It's no wonder our subway network is so small. The breaking point takes a long time to hit.
Yes, we all look forward to the day when a big chunk of the Gardiner falls down and kills a bunch of people.I hope the gardiner will cause some major danger so that the city will have no choice but to close it entirely soon.
It would be great if they found money to bury the Gardiner 4km from Dufferin to Bay, the Big Dig is not much longer and only cost Boston $24 billion...
How much does the BIG DIG cost? How much would building a complete DRL cost? Personally I think they should bite the bullet and build the complete DRL ASAP and take down the Gardiner before it falls down on its own...