Admiral Beez
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At that rate we're better off installing moving sidewalks.
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evandyk
Senior Member
Unfortunately, that fast moving sidewalk at Pearson was constantly broken, and I think they eventually took it out?
I always thought a good transit alternative would be a set of parallel moving walkways. Each one goes faster than the one next to it. So you board on the really slow one, then shuffle over to a faster one, and eventually to the fastest one. Then in time for your destination, you make your way back to the slowest one, and just jump off when you're there.
I always thought a good transit alternative would be a set of parallel moving walkways. Each one goes faster than the one next to it. So you board on the really slow one, then shuffle over to a faster one, and eventually to the fastest one. Then in time for your destination, you make your way back to the slowest one, and just jump off when you're there.
rbt
Senior Member
Yep, removed in 2020. It was the only fast walkway that TKE sold.
Beltways has a prototype of a 16km/h walkway at Cincinnati airport. It's more like a series of short contiguous independent conveyor belts (common in factories) than the single large walkways we're used to. Its big selling point is it is plug and play like a treadmill in a gym; no structural changes (like a pit) are needed beyond an electrical supply.
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urbanclient
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rbt
Senior Member
It was designed for 12km/h, though I don't know if it ever operated that fast, and a standard walkway is under 3km/h. So yes, it was considerably faster.
evandyk
Senior Member
It was fast! You could feel the wind in your hair while on it.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
nfitz
Superstar
Let's see how long that would last in the ice and salt.
Northern Light
Superstar
Any number of threads could be suitable for this............but I'll park it here.
On the agenda for the TTC next week is a report outlining ongoing and potential improvements to the streetcar and LRT networks focused on speed and reliability .
From the above:
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And more if you follow the link.
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My take: They're looking at all the right things, but this is about critical mass, ie, doing enough of those right things, in the right sequence to achive a gain that will be achieve to riders.
Lets keep an eye on this and see that there is ongoing delivery not just words.
On the agenda for the TTC next week is a report outlining ongoing and potential improvements to the streetcar and LRT networks focused on speed and reliability .
From the above:
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And more if you follow the link.
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My take: They're looking at all the right things, but this is about critical mass, ie, doing enough of those right things, in the right sequence to achive a gain that will be achieve to riders.
Lets keep an eye on this and see that there is ongoing delivery not just words.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
Since streetcars make right turns from the left lane, we need better indications, signals, signals, and regulations for that.
See https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/ttc-other-items-catch-all.20264/post-2362138
See https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/ttc-other-items-catch-all.20264/post-2362138
Amare
Senior Member
Great work sifting through and picking out that information from the report.
One thing that aggravates me is the time that they are giving staff to report to the TTC board. Really Q1 2027?? So what, the earliest we would see any kind of improvements to the streetcar network is probably 2028 at this point (assuming we dont go through idiocy, "pilot projects", or whatever else). This is really unacceptable.
All of the things mentioned in that report needs to have things implemented in some degree, but there's 2 things i will pick out from that report. Things from that frankly need to be pinned from that report so that every person in Toronto knows how laughable the TTC is at operating streetcars are:
1) The idiotic SOPs, and
2) How the 510 is the slowest streetcar route in the network (operating at an avg speed of 10km/h) despite having it's own ROW.
The fact that the TTC has been content, and thought the everything was perfectly fine with this long list of brainless rules, goes to show how useless TTC management truly is. It's absolute buffoonery.
yrt+viva=1system
Senior Member
The TTC has over 100 years of Streetcar operations and now are concerned about derailments from flanged-riding special track work? That’s some BS there. Numerous transit systems across the world have no issues with traditional tram special track work but the TTC is the only one to be so concerned. Unfortunately, I don’t foresee the TTC ever removing the 10 km/h restriction in special track work because of said “safety.”
In addition, I’m glad that this document has come to light as it confirms many operations myths that many UT’er have noted over the many years (Eg. 15 km/h through troughs. )But also confirms that the TTC laid a carbon copy of the Streetcar Operation Policy onto the Eglinton and Finch LRT.
I have mixed opinions about ever seeing much changes to the operations on the streetcar network. The long time line of Q1 2027 means that there will abundant opportunities for the TTC to push the report off the table and or worse case scenario find everything is sufficient due to said “safety.”
DSCToronto
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While I too would like the report-back sooner than Q 1 2027, this is an election year so there are virtually no Council or committee meetings after July. They really only get going again in January 2027.