The_Cat
Senior Member
One thing about some of these stations could depend on the climate. We have five months of winter in Edmonton.
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Yup, those examples above don't obviously have to be built for snow loads in mind, let alone the HVAC requirements of interior spaces in a winter climate. It also helps having the considerably lower labour and materials costs of Asia that allows more budget to be directed to overall architectural design. Here in Edmonton, all costs are higher, which makes it more expensive to build unique, funky buildings/infrastructure, which is why many things we build here look more utilitarian.One thing about some of these stations could depend on the climate. We have five months of winter in Edmonton.
what HVAC requirements?Yup, those examples above don't obviously have to be built for snow loads in mind, let alone the HVAC requirements of interior spaces in a winter climate. It also helps having the considerably lower labour and materials costs of Asia that allows more budget to be directed to overall architectural design. Here in Edmonton, all costs are higher, which makes it more expensive to build unique, funky buildings/infrastructure, which is why many things we build here look more utilitarian.
Part of it is sadly I think there is still a do it on the cheap mentality that pervades this city which we haven't completely got rid of, over a decade after our Mayor said no more crap.
Belvedere Station has A/C, granted, it was added as an after thought. In particular it seems to be concentrated around the ticket vending machines, and also had tinting applied to Windows around the TVM's.what HVAC requirements?
LRT stations don't have any real HVAC, just overhead resistance heaters. (I believe they should have full HVAC, but point being they don't and so I don't see how this would be a limiting factor here)
Are you able to reference a source for this? I have read many transit related RFP's and don't ever recall reading that lowest price wins. There is usually a scoring system were price is a factor. Sometimes it is a higher factor, other times it is a lower factor in the scoring.Part of this can be blamed in provincial legislation. Cities in Alberta are obligated by law to go with the cheapest RFP when tendering contracts
Everyone in Edmonton thinks Edmonton is lame cause they’re stuck in an echo chamber of constant complaining and dissatisfaction, comparing anything and everything to somewhere they think is better. Personally, I couldn’t care less about the Churchill connector being mediocre. If it accomplishes what it’s supposed to, that’s fine. Also, it’s not as if the VL is void of great design. The tunnel entrance in the Quarters is absolutely stunning with its detailing and lives up to its rendering. I’d also argue that Davies is really nice. I understand that people are allowed to be disappointed obviously but maybe (yup I’m gonna say it) lower the expectations a bit. Edmonton isn’t a world class city and we don’t have a world class transit system. These amazing examples just aren’t a fare comparison to Edmonton’s situation. Once we have 50+ stations, 4+ lines and 300,000+ ridership, then let’s explore how we can improve the aesthetics of station entrances.The excuses....
and we wonder why edmonton is lame. It's cause people think like this. All excuses. Have some vision people!
Here's some train stations form Norway, Sweden, and Finland so ya'll can stop blaming our climate for everything. View attachment 389291View attachment 389292View attachment 389293View attachment 389294