Glenco
Senior Member
More importantly there still needs to be engineering design work to be completed to integrate with the existing line as per the video.
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J_gordo
Active Member
I think that’s moreso relating to the system integration, not construction, so it shouldn’t impede their construction timeline
The_Cat
Senior Member
IanO
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J_gordo
Active Member
2024 year in review. Lots of good stuff here
BASE
Active Member
That elevated section is so awesome to see... hopefully we see more sections like that on future light rail projects in town.
Kosy123
Active Member
Personally think the 104 ave section should’ve been elevated in some sections, but again that’s purely for aesthetic factors rather than functional. The view on the train there would’ve been a great way of seeing downtown.
At the end of the day I’m happy that this is at least getting built instead of being stuck in a Green line boondoggle.
At the end of the day I’m happy that this is at least getting built instead of being stuck in a Green line boondoggle.
The_Cat
Senior Member
It can be difficult to determine the route for an LRT line, especially in an area that’s highly developed. Rail right-of-ways are common, with respect to Edmonton, Calgary and Vancouver.
I think Edmonton has made some good decisions keeping the LRT underground in.central areas of the city. Edmonton could improve on past decisions like 114 Street/University Avenue, but the elevated sections over Argyll and WEM will save a lot of time in traffic.
I think Edmonton has made some good decisions keeping the LRT underground in.central areas of the city. Edmonton could improve on past decisions like 114 Street/University Avenue, but the elevated sections over Argyll and WEM will save a lot of time in traffic.
dkazzed
Active Member
I'm just appreciative that half of the Valley Line is built and the other half is getting built.
We hit 11,000+ passengers per weekday. I'm hopeful the steady growth continues into next year.
We hit 11,000+ passengers per weekday. I'm hopeful the steady growth continues into next year.
Didama
Active Member
Especially when you see the mess the UCP has created in Calgary. There's a fair chance city council will just deep six the whole green line. The UCP wants the CoC to assume all liabilities (cost overruns and legal liability) for the ridiculous alignment the UCP prefers. If I was mayor or a councillor in Calgary I would say hell no. I'm very happy things are much better up here and we got this thing moving before the UCP could f@@k it up.
Barnaby
Active Member
I don't think the UCP would have had a problem with the design of Valley Line since it isn't terrible like the planned Green Line was. Attempting to use LRVs in a subway setting is ridiculous. If you're tunneling already, the capacity should be very high.
Edmonton has the advantage of having a very future proof subway, so running a grade level LRV system downtown is ideal for a host of reasons. Once you get out of central Edmonton, the trade-offs start to be more obvious, but the big issues have been mostly solved by grade separation at 170th/178th/West Ed.
I believe Edmonton will run into commuter/event capacity issues on the Valley Line West at some point, though. However, the quality of life improvements for central residents will probably outweigh the downsides, and running high floor on this VLW alignment would have been difficult or impossible.
Edmonton has the advantage of having a very future proof subway, so running a grade level LRV system downtown is ideal for a host of reasons. Once you get out of central Edmonton, the trade-offs start to be more obvious, but the big issues have been mostly solved by grade separation at 170th/178th/West Ed.
I believe Edmonton will run into commuter/event capacity issues on the Valley Line West at some point, though. However, the quality of life improvements for central residents will probably outweigh the downsides, and running high floor on this VLW alignment would have been difficult or impossible.
Kosy123
Active Member
They're probably going to run exclusively 2 car trains during peak hours, or extend the 5 min frequency to most of the day if they start running into issues with WEM tbh. WEM might end up being the busiest station in the Valley Line system after Churchill once it's up and running.
Didama
Active Member
not that uncommong tbh. Strasbourg in France has a tunnel for a low floor system. The UCP's proposed alignment would be hideously ugly, will make it impossible to ever extend the line north, and will actually cost more than tunnelling.
thommyjo
Senior Member
The artificially low cost estimate, with the city being liable for overruns, is so dumb. Come on UCP. Be better partners.
Thankful to not be Calgary currently.
West line will be awesome
Barnaby
Active Member
I understand that it can be done, I just have the opinion that it shouldn't be. This isn't an endorsement or criticism of the UCP and CCC, I have expressed my opinion on the Green Line here prior to any hints of changes.
Back to VLW, WEM will make it more financially feasible to run higher frequency across the line as you'll have high commuter traffic in all directions. Also, due to the nature of retail staff scheduling, you'll see high ridership throughout the day to this destination. It'll be flatter than the routes into the downtown core, you won't get the extreme peaks.
Back to VLW, WEM will make it more financially feasible to run higher frequency across the line as you'll have high commuter traffic in all directions. Also, due to the nature of retail staff scheduling, you'll see high ridership throughout the day to this destination. It'll be flatter than the routes into the downtown core, you won't get the extreme peaks.