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http://fakeisthenewreal.org/subway/

These maps don't likely tell the whole story, but Toronto's transit doesn't look very impressive in comparative perspective. Still, I'm not so sure US cities like Boston, Chicago and San Francisco have superior systems. My feeling is Toronto is pretty good by N. American standards but not so good compared to Europe and East Asia.
 
Vancouver not updated with the Olympic line or whatever they call it.

Some cities (like Berlin) include commuter rail (and Berlin deserves to owing to frequency of service I suppose) but most don't, like Toronto (and we don't deserve it), but why not Paris' RER? It's frequent.

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Vancouver not updated with the Olympic line or whatever they call it.
Well the date on the website IS 2004. The Olympic Line (which was LRT) was closed BTW. Your probably thinking of the Canada Line.

why not Paris' RER? It's frequent.
Or better yet, why include the SRT, but not the DLR in London; they are quite similar in many ways.
 
Vancouver not updated with the Olympic line or whatever they call it.

Some cities (like Berlin) include commuter rail (and Berlin deserves to owing to frequency of service I suppose) but most don't, like Toronto (and we don't deserve it), but why not Paris' RER? It's frequent.

Agreed, particularly since they included BART which runs 20 minute frequencies for a large chunk of the day. Many Chicago and DC trains are 15 minute frequencies for most of the day. The RER lines I've used were more frequent than that.

I wonder if this data, including frequencies, could be pulled out of Google Maps. Adjust width of line to frequency of service.
 
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They didn't include Rome's Metro, which might be the most underwhelming system in the world in terms of scale in relation to the city it serves. However, we can't let that diminish the fact that our system is badly underdeveloped.
 
There are issues with digging in Rome due to all the ruins and still as of yet unexcavated historic sites.
 
http://fakeisthenewreal.org/subway/

These maps don't likely tell the whole story, but Toronto's transit doesn't look very impressive in comparative perspective. Still, I'm not so sure US cities like Boston, Chicago and San Francisco have superior systems. My feeling is Toronto is pretty good by N. American standards but not so good compared to Europe and East Asia.

Yeah, living in the Bay area I have to say that these maps can be *very* misleading. BART is basically commuter rail that happens to use subway rolling stock and go underground in parts. Despite the longer length, only 1/3 of it is underground, the station separation is similar to the GO train, and the frequency sucks.

BART ridership - 341,000
TTC subway ridership - 948,000
 
The Muni Metro is San Francisco's real equivalent of Toronto's subway system (though the Muni Metro is much closer to that of the proposed Crosstown LRT). The BART is the equivalent to GO Transit.

Meanwhile, the MARTA has straighter lines than Toronto does (the MARTA has both main lines and branch lines).
 

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