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you can just go to waterloo to clearly see how things progress without the interference of the wretched dogs they call politicians (mind you its all over ground, but you get the idea....)
 
Voltz said:
The original plan, when the line was first funded, was to open the section west of Eglinton West station to Kipling this year or so, the province later delayed the funding, and cancelled sections, to have everything open all together at the end.
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They never indicated that at any of the EA-level meetings that I attended. What's your source?

Dan
Toronto, Ont.
 
smallspy said:
They never indicated that at any of the EA-level meetings that I attended. What's your source?

Dan
Toronto, Ont.
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That is what I remember from a long time ago. The display boards and other material don't seem to be available on line anymore, the best I could find now is this.

http://news.ontario.ca/mto/en/2009/04/province-moving-transit-projects-forward.html

Timing
  • TTC is conducting the Environmental Assessment - and the second set of public meetings will be held this spring. Subject to environmental approval, the TTC estimates construction could begin in 2010, with service planned for 2016.
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gweed123 said:
Watching projects like this and TYSSE really make me appreciate the way that Ottawa is doing the Confederation Line. Just tender the entire thing (tunnelling, tracks, stations, vehicles, warranty) in one fixed-price contract and be done with it. Ottawa's Confederation Line is only slightly less complex than the Eglinton Crosstown (a few less underground stations), but still pretty comparable. The Confederation Line is also about 6 months ahead of schedule.
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Eglinton is more complex in terms of building under & connecting to existing subways. From what I've heard it's one of the most difficult parts.
 
ehlow said:
Eglinton is more complex in terms of building under & connecting to existing subways. From what I've heard it's one of the most difficult parts.
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still cant explain why they cant start station construction on the western portion now while they dig the rest
 
cplchanb said:
still cant explain why they cant start station construction on the western portion now while they dig the rest
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have they removed all of the trailing stiff from the TBMs from it yet my guess would be they can't start work on them until they have all of the conveyor belts and stuff out of the way.
 
They'll probably start on the Crosstown stations after they finish the Spadina extension stations. They have only so many workers with the skill-set needed.

When they finish the Crosstown stations, then they'll start on the DRL stations... (insert laughter here). :rolleyes:
 
W. K. Lis said:
They'll probably start on the Crosstown stations after they finish the Spadina extension stations. They have only so many workers with the skill-set needed. :rolleyes:
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I think the people needed to do the foundation and the structure are already finished their work on Spadina. The group who are now doing the electrical, mechanical and finishing on Spadina won't be needed on Eglinton for a few years.
 
W. K. Lis said:
They'll probably start on the Crosstown stations after they finish the Spadina extension stations. They have only so many workers with the skill-set needed.

When they finish the Crosstown stations, then they'll start on the DRL stations... (insert laughter here). :rolleyes:
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Is the GTA that starved for contractors and skilled trades?
 
cplchanb said:
Is the GTA that starved for contractors and skilled trades?
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Yes (at times). However, the folks that do the excavating, the building, and finishes are 3 different groups of people. Ongoing TSSE work is not an impediment to finding excavation crews.


That said, the contract has been tendered and that tender has a project-wide deadline. It's more or less up to the contractor to time construction.
 
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rbt said:
That said, the contract has been tendered and that tender has a project-wide deadline. It's more or less up to the contractor to time construction.
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If thats the case, perhaps an overly lax target schedule? Keep people employed for as long as possible at the expense of project timelines? It would seem that if they had concurrent construction they can shave months to years off the master schedule
 
cplchanb said:
If thats the case, perhaps an overly lax target schedule? Keep people employed for as long as possible at the expense of project timelines? It would seem that if they had concurrent construction they can shave months to years off the master schedule
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Some component (almost certainly Yonge & Eglinton) will be the critical path (set the finish time) for the project.

Nothing you do outside the critical path will speed up the critical path. I suspect if you want the line to open sooner, you would need to allow for longer and more frequent shutdowns of the Yonge subway line; IIRC they've been allotted 50 weekends.

Boring might have started at Yonge and pushed out from there but this would have had substantially more disruption to that intersection (larger holes and years of trucks removing soil).
 
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