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We can safely say Bombardier wanted to save on costs by manufacturing parts in Mexico and it backfired big time.

That's probably true.

We also know the new part owner of the transportation division (Caisse) who brought in the new Transportation Division president has a mandate of moving work to Quebec. Scaling up Quebec production was inevitable for future projects even if Mexico was firing on all cylinders for this project.
 
Several posts back there was some uncertainty as to the current status of the old bus terminal. Stopped by this morning for a look

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Nice....so all they did for over month since they announced on their site:http://www.thecrosstown.ca/news-media/whats-new/demolition-work-for-future-eglinton-station-0
was park a few sea containers and a trailer...Even if they can blame the unseasonably cold weather for not digging at least they can tear down the structures. I'm pretty sure you dont need 15C weather to do that..... Now I'm beginning to understand why its going to take until 2021....this is a clear example of the inefficiencies in their construction scheduling.
Either that or theres a serious disconnect between them and PR. Either way... we're still on the hook to pay for a trailer sittting in an empty lot with no activity/progress going on.

Whoever is responsible for making everyone who relies on crosstown.ca believe that progress is being made whether its PR or the construction manager really ought to be disciplined/fired, but thats not going to happen.....unions/govt contracts....
 
We can safely say Bombardier wanted to save on costs by manufacturing parts in Mexico and it backfired big time.
Shame on the TTC for not requiring production at proven plants. When the federal government orders warships, they require all production in Canada. The GTA's combined outstanding orders with Bombardier are equal to the warships contracts in size.
 
Shame on the TTC for not requiring production at proven plants. When the federal government orders warships, they require all production in Canada. The GTA's combined outstanding orders with Bombardier are equal to the warships contracts in size.
That's most likely for national security reasons, and has nothing to do with contract size.
 
Shame on the TTC for not requiring production at proven plants. When the federal government orders warships, they require all production in Canada. The GTA's combined outstanding orders with Bombardier are equal to the warships contracts in size.
You do remember the Feds said FU to Toronto/David Miller when they tried to get the feds to fund these streetcars. What you're suggesting is to jack up the prices of the bid so TTC can't even afford the streetcars. We would have gotten zero streetcars if they requested 100% Canadian content. The military is different, they don't want their secrets leaking out of the country.

A lot of people here has been suggested that TTC should have gone with an more expensive option but in 2009 TO was poor as ****. The contract wouldn't have gone through if the city decided not to take on more loans.
 
A lot of people here has been suggested that TTC should have gone with an more expensive option but in 2009 TO was poor as ****. The contract wouldn't have gone through if the city decided not to take on more loans.

And a valid and winnable lawsuit from Bombardier if the city failed to follow bidding rules and went with the higher bidder. Also, Miller was elected largely because of the MFP scandal which was caused almost entirely by not following the cities tendering practices.
 
And a valid and winnable lawsuit from Bombardier if the city failed to follow bidding rules and went with the higher bidder. Also, Miller was elected largely because of the MFP scandal which was caused almost entirely by not following the cities tendering practices.
are you saying that the lowest bid needs to get the tender otherwise the lowest bidder can sue? If the city felt the higher bid was more reflective of the true cost and selected that how could Bombardier sue? When a tender is put together there are many requirements written into a tender prior to companies bidding. Price is not the only thing.
 
Gonna be one of the final pictures we will have for the Eglinton bus bays.

It's going to be on some BlogTO post 20 years from now.

"What Eglinton Avenue used to look like before Eglinton Line in Toronto"

"Top 10 historical photos of Eglinton Avenue in Toronto"

"A brief history of Toronto's lost bus routes"

"30 signs you grew up in Toronto in the 2010s"

"That time Toronto actually built a subway on Eglinton"
 
are you saying that the lowest bid needs to get the tender otherwise the lowest bidder can sue? If the city felt the higher bid was more reflective of the true cost and selected that how could Bombardier sue? When a tender is put together there are many requirements written into a tender prior to companies bidding. Price is not the only thing.
If the bid was to request for the lowest bidder and if the lowest bidder followed all the rules and didn't get the tender, they can pretty much sue.

Metrolinx didn't request companies to bid for the Crosstown project but instead a Request for Qualifications to see what each company can bring forward. Metrolinx is then free to select the best proposal. The can pretty much do the same for the vehicles. This process takes much longer but it should be more successful than handing the contract out and crying hopelessly afterwards.
 
Nice....so all they did for over month since they announced on their site:http://www.thecrosstown.ca/news-media/whats-new/demolition-work-for-future-eglinton-station-0
was park a few sea containers and a trailer...Even if they can blame the unseasonably cold weather for not digging at least they can tear down the structures. I'm pretty sure you dont need 15C weather to do that..... Now I'm beginning to understand why its going to take until 2021....this is a clear example of the inefficiencies in their construction scheduling.
Either that or theres a serious disconnect between them and PR. Either way... we're still on the hook to pay for a trailer sittting in an empty lot with no activity/progress going on.

Whoever is responsible for making everyone who relies on crosstown.ca believe that progress is being made whether its PR or the construction manager really ought to be disciplined/fired, but thats not going to happen.....unions/govt contracts....
This isn't some clapboard shack they're tearing down. Do you realize the size of this site? There has to be a lot of planning and coordination to do this the proper and safe way. You can't just go in there and start smashing away. There are underground tunnels, utilities and god knows what is under there. So they say they are starting demolition. They have. It starts with careful planning. And, thank god for unions.
 
This isn't some clapboard shack they're tearing down. Do you realize the size of this site? There has to be a lot of planning and coordination to do this the proper and safe way. You can't just go in there and start smashing away. There are underground tunnels, utilities and god knows what is under there. So they say they are starting demolition. They have. It starts with careful planning. And, thank god for unions.

It should be noted that there has been some mapping of utilities and other underground features. Green and orange spraypaint on the ground are visible in midtowner's pic.
 

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