Neutrino
Senior Member
Also, 3 eastbound through lanes becoming 2? That's highly unsafe, especially if traffic is moving fast.
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Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
The eastbound and westbound lanes on Eglinton Avenue already become one lane each way east of Weston Road under the bridges. So no problem.
It'll be Black Creek Drive becoming one lane northbound that will be the problem. Thankfully, only until the end of February.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
I assume that they’ve left some details out the drawing. This isn’t an engineering drawing, after all.
However I haven’t been impressed with the temporary lane configurations along the Crosstown route. The temporary lanes are often faded or non existent, and they’ve frequently failed to remove old lane markings.
A few months ago, I saw a collision happen at Avenue and Eglinton. I can hardly blame the drivers involved. There were two conflictaing lane markings on the roadway (one instructing drivers to go straight, and the other telling them to merge into the next lane), and I figured it would only be a matter of time before a crash happened.
OneCity
Senior Member
If they could have the shelters at the outdoor stops cover the entire pedestrian platform, and create a barrier from passing traffic that would be good. Best would be if the tracks were covered as well, so that the snow and rain would have less accumulation.
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Even half of this rendering would have been acceptable. Either barriers or larger canopies
TransitBart
Senior Member
Yes. And yes. They are separate projects with separate contractors, but the intention is that they open shortly after the Crosstown Line.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
Probably better connections than the current GO/TTC connections at Dundas West Subway/Bloor GO, Leslie Subway/Oriole GO, and Main Street Subway/Danforth GO.
drum118
Superstar
The Crosstown Line will have better access to UPX/KW lines than the 89 bus.
Come 2021, TTC will have better access to UPX/KW lines for Dundas Subway, but still a walking trip for buses and streetcars riders, but better than it is today.
The other 2 still requires long walks, but Oriole should be closers to the Leslie Subway than today. Metrolinx needs to get some glass's to see how to do it right.
Johnny Au
Superstar
115 Silver Hills could have been routed to serve Oriole GO station and Leslie station, but no, the people of Silver Hills would rather go to York Mills station instead.
yrt+viva=1system
Senior Member
While waiting inside a Highway 7 Viva stop, I just couldn't help thinking about how poorly designed the Crosstown stops are when it comes to protection from the elements. Especially in winter. I took a browse at one of the Crosstown presentations where it covered the on street stop designs and had a good chuckle at the explanation of the protection it will offer.
I wish good luck to those who have to brace -15C and lower with windchill. Even the humble TTC bus shelters with 3/4 enclosure are more comforting.
What Metrolinx should do is put the designer-consultants out there on the street and have them wait for the estimated Crosstown frequency. This simulation should knock some sense into their heads.
I wish good luck to those who have to brace -15C and lower with windchill. Even the humble TTC bus shelters with 3/4 enclosure are more comforting.
What Metrolinx should do is put the designer-consultants out there on the street and have them wait for the estimated Crosstown frequency. This simulation should knock some sense into their heads.
Leo_Chan
Senior Member
Or they could heat lamps on all sides of the shelter, including the ground and walls.
Yes, I know there were discussions on how they need to be monitored/secured to prevent tampering or homeless, but I don’t see how that can’t be solved.
OneCity
Senior Member
These uninspiring skeleton shelters are also in areas where people would be walking furthest just to access the stop in bad conditions. Do they really want people to use public transit? These details make a huge difference.
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
The biggest problem with the shelters for YRT is they ar huge putting one on the streets of Toronto more poel would complain about not being able to see across the street then being able to stay under cover in bad weather. Given the nature of the size of the right o way and the frequency that they pan to operate then on yu relly don't need massive shelters or heat lamps at them. They will probably be the same as the ones they have on Spadina/ Queens Quay and on St, Clair, people my not like them as they aren't proper shelters but there are concessions that have to be made for the space on the streets and building codes for wheelchairs. Building anything now that the general public have to use on a daily basis has gotten vastly complicated with having elevators and escalators in both directions and having ramps so anyone can get onto a platform easily.
nfitz
Superstar
115 already serves Oriole GO.
Not sure how running 115 to Leslie does anything but slow down most subway riders commutes.
The one they SHOULD have extended to Don Mills or Leslie is the frequent 91C and D Woodbine service, which terminates only one stop from Don Mills Road, at York Mills and Silverdale. From there it's only 5 more bus stops to Sheppard (though running it up Valentine, Fenelon, Graydon Hall is tempting)! The service is quite uni-directional, especially north of Lawrence.
As it runs past the Line 5 stop at Bermondsey, I'd assume that it won't survive what would have to be major bus route changes when Line 5 opens. Presumably a split at Eglinton, and hopefully a relatively quick Bermondsey to Don Mills station bus.
It could also run down York Mills, and up Lesmill to Leslie, providing service to the unserved chunk of Lesmill north of Duncan Mill.
Walking in a tunnel though though with the tunnel being about 3o metres long, and
With them moving the platform, it will be. If they'd put a walkway over Leslie Street, it would be a simple 150 metre walk to the tunnel from Leslie station to that new office tower to the west (what happened to that anyways, I thought it was all approved years ago, with the approval to remove the knockout in the station as well).
Presumably there's another knockout in the south as well - that TTC parking lot south of the station would work much better as a building, and put the platform only 100 metres from a sheltered walk to Leslie station. Could probably do a no- or low-cost deal with the land to the south as well, if it included access to the walkway over Esther Mills - heck cover that, and it will feel like they are connected.
And a shorter walk from the planned western entrance to East Harbour station (were I assume there'll at least be a TTC bus stop), to the attached Downtown line subway platform.
smallspy
Senior Member
That was one change that the TTC looked at doing for the opening of the Sheppard Line. They decided against it, likely because they'd need to add a bus to the schedule and they couldn't justify the increase in costs.
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
ssiguy2
Senior Member
Without going reading back ten pages.............have they started construction on the non-grade separated sections of the line from roughly the DVP to Kennedy?