[EastYorkTTCFan]

It maybe own by Metrolinx, but the City Transportation calls the shots for traffic signals. Until City Transportation changes its thinking, transit will remain 3rd class to them.

Then try riding ION system and look at the mess traffic gates kills the speed of the system.

The Green Line of Minneapolis runs very faster and a lot better than a TTC streetcar line ROW.

I was referring to why the up express isn't on the TTC map and the TTC having the airport rocket on it.

 

[drum118]

I was referring to why the up express isn't on the TTC map and the TTC having the airport rocket on it.

You can only put so much on a map on a line system, before confusing riders. Yes for a total system map.

ION has a nice map on their LRV that is in line to what can be found in Europe and something TTC needs to look at.

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

You can only put so much on a map on a line system, before confusing riders. Yes for a total system map.

ION has a nice map on their LRV that is line to what can be found in Europe and something TTC needs to look at.

I understand that completely hopefully whatever map they put up is better designed then the one they put up on line 2

 

[Coolstar]

Signal priority is something that could be (relatively) easily added down the road, perhaps we can stop bickering?

Nope because the city is too stupid to implement it. Unless we have some real leadership down the line.

I understand that completely hopefully whatever map they put up is better designed then the one they put up on line 2

I actually don't mind the Line 2 map that much. What's so wrong with it?

 

[robmausser]

Signal priority is something that could be (relatively) easily added down the road, perhaps we can stop bickering?

Added? Its already there! They paid for it! Its installed! The f&$^%ers at Toronto Road Authority are literally pressing buttons that will disable S%&t we already installed and paid for. I'm mad as hell.

 

[Streety McCarface]

Then try riding ION system and look at the mess traffic gates kills the speed of the system.

How on earth do the traffic gates kill the speed of the system? The waterloo spur and Huron Park spur sections are the fastest on the line. The Line doesn't yet have ATP, which kills the speed.

 

[MisterF]

Because it's not owned by the TTC it's owned by Metrolinx.

So? Most rapid transit maps show commuter and airport lines, including cities with much more complicated systems than Toronto's. This will get more important as GO expands RER and plays a larger role in urban transportation. Who owns what should be irrelevant.

You can only put so much on a map on a line system, before confusing riders. Yes for a total system map.

ION has a nice map on their LRV that is in line to what can be found in Europe and something TTC needs to look at.

Yes, cramming the entire system map above the doors becomes less and less sustainable as the system expands.

 

[drum118]

How on earth do the traffic gates kill the speed of the system? The waterloo spur and Huron Park spur sections are the fastest on the line. The Line doesn't yet have ATP, which kills the speed.

There are a number of locations where the LRV has to come to a halt or crawl up to the crossing as the gates are so slow coming down. It was that way before opening day, opening day and last week.

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

I actually don't mind the Line 2 map that much. What's so wrong with it?

It's great if you know what the yellow circle with a 1 in it means and where the line goes from there. What they should have done is put a light coloured line going up or down from them saying where line 1 goes. Many people have said that people can use the full system map that can be found by the door, however most of the trains I've been on there isn't one to be found as they all have advertising on them.

 

[Ozman]

Excellent!
Two nit-picks: Allen station should be “Cedarvale” and Lebovic stop should be “Hakimi Lebovic”. Note there is no hyphen between Hakimi and Lebovic.

Great map; thanks.

You mean like this?
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[Streety McCarface]

There are a number of locations where the LRV has to come to a halt or crawl up to the crossing as the gates are so slow coming down. It was that way before opening day, opening day and last week.

As someone who used the system daily, the areas you're referring to are zones in which the trains have to slow down anyway, whether it be due to curves, or entering a station. If it ever became a real issue, they'd just have to adjust the timing of the gates.

 

[syn]

Except it's not as easy of a fix as you propose, at least, in the case of the design @MisterF proposed. You'd likely have to shut down numerous intersections for weeks to months at a time to realign them and install barriers. Traffic signals would also have to be replaced. There's also the issue of installing a signaling system that triggers the barriers. You're looking at a few hundred million dollars for every single intersection.

Hence why I wrote "relatively easy", and that's assuming he current configuration isn't fast enough.

 

[jordanmkasla2009]

There are a number of locations where the LRV has to come to a halt or crawl up to the crossing as the gates are so slow coming down. It was that way before opening day, opening day and last week.

The gates they have to crawl up to only have ATP integration and island circuits, but because the ATP is down they have to crawl up to the island circuits to activate them. There's only a couple of those even in the system. The rest all have integrations with the positional tracking.

 

[salsa]

As has been mentioned, all that needs to happen is traffic cannot cross the tracks at Leslie and some sort of pedestrian overpass with elevators needs to be added, then you can have the Line run full ATO all the way to Don Mills which conveniently is where a major bus terminal and future rapid transit connection will be.

It's not so simple to actually do. You can't just ban all vehicle turn movements forever without providing some sort of alternative way to accommodate this.

 

[H4F33Z]

It's not so simple to actually do. You can't just ban all vehicle turn movements forever without providing some sort of alternative way to accommodate this.

We closed leslie for 2 months last year. Just make it permanent. That being said it's not that. Pedestrians and cyclists need to access it somehow.