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afransen said:
I'm sure someone could propose running an elevated line through Bridle Path on Lawrence, but they may end up face down in the harbour or simply disappeared by our friendly local plutocrats. ;)
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With a scenic detour to Drake's backyard 😆

duffo said:
Like I said, that part would need to be tunneled, coming up around Leslie. I agree that for now the best parts of the route would be Weston GO - Lawrence West Station in the West and Don Mills - McCowan in the East. Or if the city wanted to really help bring people to Edwards Gardens which has been a bit neglected in the past, it could use part of the parking lot to construct a bus loop which would be the western terminus of the Lawrence East BRT.

I don't think operationally a Line 5 branch would work, way too many vehicles going onto the mainline unless you halved the capacity east of Don Mills along Eglinton.
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I would say they would have to short turn some trains at Laird if they ever approach capacity. Under this fantasy proposal, they could fix up the Leslie intersection and have a branch onto Lawrence East.
 
W. K. Lis said:
The distance between the Queen Subway Station and the King Subway Station is approximately 370 m.

The distance between the Bloor-Yonge Subway Station and the Bay Subway Station is approimately 330 m.
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That's a great point.

Obviously those stations are exceptions in areas of high density. However, subway station distances of much less than 1km are not uncommon.

It's been suggested that this line will be inadequate for an area that will see increased density. I don't agree with that at all, but the increased future density certainly does explain some of the closer stops.
 
Actually it could still be elevated over Bridle Path so long as its covered over and enclosed with mirrors so it looks invisible and of course it cant be heard.
 
Lawrence LRT is not a bad idea, especially if/when ECLRT begins approaching its capacity.

For the network connectivity, one continuous line is preferred even if it passes through some low-density sections. The tunnel under Bridle Path does not need to be insanely deep, and it it will be only 2 km, not a deal breaker.

Lawrence has a few other tight spots, where tunneling will be required, but the total tunnel length will be less than for the Eglinton line.
 
Rainforest said:
Lawrence LRT is not a bad idea, especially if/when ECLRT begins approaching its capacity.

For the network connectivity, one continuous line is preferred even if it passes through some low-density sections. The tunnel under Bridle Path does not need to be insanely deep, and it it will be only 2 km, not a deal breaker.

Lawrence has a few other tight spots, where tunneling will be required, but the total tunnel length will be less than for the Eglinton line.
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Yeah, and for those who think "Lawrence and Eglinton are right next to each other, this is a total waste", it should be noted that the distance between the two is roughly the same as the distance between Bloor and Queen!
 
duffo said:
Yeah, and for those who think "Lawrence and Eglinton are right next to each other, this is a total waste", it should be noted that the distance between the two is roughly the same as the distance between Bloor and Queen!
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Building it as a subway is totally a waste but as a LRT to build a LRT grid for Scarborough, I think it would be a nice touch.

The Bridle Path subway is definitely dead last, just a discussion.
 
Rainforest said:
Lawrence LRT is not a bad idea, especially if/when ECLRT begins approaching its capacity.

For the network connectivity, one continuous line is preferred even if it passes through some low-density sections. The tunnel under Bridle Path does not need to be insanely deep, and it it will be only 2 km, not a deal breaker.

Lawrence has a few other tight spots, where tunneling will be required, but the total tunnel length will be less than for the Eglinton line.
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I don't know about the Lawrence LRT, but a Lawrence East BRT in Scarborough connecting to a Don Mills Subway Line (Relief Line North/Ontario Line North/whatever) would be a fantastic addition. Heck, Sheppard and perhaps even Elessmere might be deserving of similar BRT lines. All would be heavily used routes, to quickly funnel people from Scarbrough to Downtown via the Don Mills Subway.
 
TheTigerMaster said:
I don't know about the Lawrence LRT, but a Lawrence East BRT in Scarborough connecting to a Don Mills Subway Line (Relief Line North/Ontario Line North/whatever) would be a fantastic addition. Heck, Sheppard and perhaps even Elessmere might be deserving of similar BRT lines. All would be heavily used routes, to quickly funnel people from Scarbrough to Downtown via the Don Mills Subway.
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A Sheppard BRT makes infinitely more sense than a costly LRT line. Better to use BRT to build ridership until Sheppard can be extended with the same technology (whatever that ends up being). I'm increasingly skeptical that we should be using LRT except for high volume local transit like King St where buses couldn't do the job. Instead, start with BRT, and when capacity is reached put in fully grade separated transit.
 
TheTigerMaster said:
I don't know about the Lawrence LRT, but a Lawrence East BRT in Scarborough connecting to a Don Mills Subway Line (Relief Line North/Ontario Line North/whatever) would be a fantastic addition. Heck, Sheppard and perhaps even Elessmere might be deserving of similar BRT lines. All would be heavily used routes, to quickly funnel people from Scarbrough to Downtown via the Don Mills Subway.
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Well I mean the eastern section of Ellesmere is hopefully getting one with the Scarborough-Durham BRT but who knows when that will open. Just imagine brt corridors along eery east-west street that isn't served by some sort of rail transit🤤 maybe by 2100🤷‍♂️
 
How about a York Mills/Ellesmere LRT to make use of the existing elevated segment near Scarborough Center?
 
afransen said:
A Sheppard BRT makes infinitely more sense than a costly LRT line. Better to use BRT to build ridership until Sheppard can be extended with the same technology (whatever that ends up being). I'm increasingly skeptical that we should be using LRT except for high volume local transit like King St where buses couldn't do the job. Instead, start with BRT, and when capacity is reached put in fully grade separated transit.
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A lot of east-west streets end at the Humber River. Wilson and Sheppard end at Weston Road. Lawrence "shifts" north to Dixon Road.
 
W. K. Lis said:
A lot of east-west streets end at the Humber River. Wilson and Sheppard end at Weston Road. Lawrence "shifts" north to Dixon Road.
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That's fine, even a Sheppard West BRT that went as far as Downsview could be useful. And even if it were built as subway, I doubt we'd see it go past Downsview at any rate.
 
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