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This is really pretty, imo - it's a shame that Metrolinx has got rid of their art program for future projects..
I'm kinda fine with the removed art program if they put more emphasis on architecture. A lot of public art feels tacked on, like an attempt to make boring box concourses look more interesting. If the Ontario Line renders are accurate and Metrolinx will start focusing on making the stations more architecturally interesting, I think that's a good trade of. This is a massive if though unfortunately.
 
I'm kinda fine with the removed art program if they put more emphasis on architecture. A lot of public art feels tacked on, like an attempt to make boring box concourses look more interesting. If the Ontario Line renders are accurate and Metrolinx will start focusing on making the stations more architecturally interesting, I think that's a good trade of. This is a massive if though unfortunately.
as long as they treat the architecture as the art it could honestly work out better than before
 
There is a difference between city X and Y. If city X and Y were designed and built in the same way, people in X can stay in X and vice versa. The dependency would reduce hence lower congestion and lower chance of spreading COVID-19 these days too. Integrating both city won't solve the problem as X would stay in X while Y might want to go to X but X would never want to go to Y.

This kind of boarder is visible in Toronto itself. Look at Dundas and Runnymede, the boarder between Old Toronto and York. Immediately east, everything is well developed with an urban feel in The Junctions. West of it, you'll immediately feel different. Transit usage totally drops off with the 40B bus short turning leaving half as much service on the 40A. You'll see most of the bus would empty off passed this invisible boundary at Runnymede. Route 40 is now fully integrated but the integration itself didn't trigger the change.

The point is people don't do A, so doing B won't make people do A. Fully integrating the GTA won't bring a boom to 905 transit itself. The 905 needs to do more to attract people to transit than simple integration. Fare subsidy is another question. The TTC got rid of fare zones between the Old city and the rest of Metro Toronto. The result was downhill from running a profit to more and more subsidies every since 1973. It ain't going away.
Heh, we could build some walls. I hear they tried it in Berlin.
 
Integration isn't desirable for the reason of increasing ridership in the suburbs. It's desirable because it's a more efficient, logical, and integrated way of doing things in a city-state whose internal borders are socio-economically meaningless.

Or, whatever, let's all keep playing in our own little transit silo sandboxes like a bunch of spoilt kids who can't share toys with the other kids.
 
Same with people who think Toronto the city is just the City of Toronto. City of Toronto is just a 'borough' of Toronto.
It's been the city of Toronto since 1998 there are no separate boughs. Yes people who live here still take about and refer to the old bourghs but it's mainly to say which part of the large city of Toronto you are a part of. For example one time I was talking to someone somewhere and they said that they were from Toronto and I asked which part, they said Mississauga and I told them that I was from East York they had no idea where that was even though it is more a part of Toronto then Mississauga is.
 
It's been the city of Toronto since 1998 there are no separate boughs. Yes people who live here still take about and refer to the old bourghs but it's mainly to say which part of the large city of Toronto you are a part of. For example one time I was talking to someone somewhere and they said that they were from Toronto and I asked which part, they said Mississauga and I told them that I was from East York they had no idea where that was even though it is more a part of Toronto then Mississauga is.
Maybe you misunderstood my point: the City of Toronto is just a legal fiction. The city is the whole GTA.
 
Considering that it never even was. It was a city, not akin to Manhattan which is a borough of NYC.
The former Borough of East York would be the most recent local example. Though neighbouring Scarborough and North York were once boroughs, along with York and Etobicoke.

 
Maybe you misunderstood my point: the City of Toronto is just a legal fiction. The city is the whole GTA.
I think you are mixing things up. Back when what we now know as the city of Toronto was called Metropolitan Toronto it was made up of smaller cities and one bourogh. The cities that made up Metropolitan Toronto were the cites of Scarborough, North York, York, Toronto and Etobicoke along with the borough of East York. In 1998 Mike Haris forced the amelgamatinn of the parts of Toronto that formed Metropolitan Toronto to become the city of Toronto.

The GTA (Greater Toronto Area) is a region which encompasses the city of Toronto, along with the city of Vaughn, Richmond Hill, Mississauga and others. Metrolinx likes to add an H to it to make it into the GTHA or Greater Toronto Hamilton Area.
 
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The former Borough of East York would be the most recent local example. Though neighbouring Scarborough and North York were once boroughs, along with York and Etobicoke.


But Old Toronto itself was never a borough, which is what my point was.
 
But Old Toronto itself was never a borough, which is what my point was.
Of course it wasn't ... when then do you object to me saying that "Surely claiming that Toronto is a borough, is a legal fiction!"? I simply provided contrast of places that WERE boroughs in support of your point.
 

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