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Maybe Spadina Line stations like St. Clair West and not TYSSE - those platforms on TYSSE are beyond awful.
I agree on the platforms, however the other parts of the TYSSE architecture are quite nice.

The OL is going to be Toronto’s premier subway line (the first downtown line in 70 years), and it should get the architectural flourishes it deserves.
 
Meanwhile, in Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia...


Wireless trams. The trams can get recharged at each station. Possible, because they get the needed funds to do so. Can't do that in Toronto or Ontario.
 
Meanwhile, in Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia...


Wireless trams. The trams can get recharged at each station. Possible, because they get the needed funds to do so. Can't do that in Toronto or Ontario.
Or maybe we didn't think it was practical for the crosstown line or the legacy network. There are more factors then just finding for things like that also at the time of being ordered Bombardier didn't have a model that was capable of wireless use.
 
Meanwhile, in Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia...


Wireless trams. The trams can get recharged at each station. Possible, because they get the needed funds to do so. Can't do that in Toronto or Ontario.
Also because it's Aus with fantastic weather, and this line is *checks notes* 3km long . . .
 
Meanwhile, in Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia...


Wireless trams. The trams can get recharged at each station. Possible, because they get the needed funds to do so. Can't do that in Toronto or Ontario.

So freakin' COOL.
Can imagine this would also be possible with electric buses ....?
 
Honestly I’d really appreciate just some of that TYSSE “opulence” on the Crosstown (and even more on the Ontario Line). These Crosstown stations are as utilitarian as it gets

TYSSE-style stations would be incredible on the OL from a design standpoint.

It's unfortunate how far the bar has dropped when it comes to Toronto transit design.

We seem content to get whatever scraps we get (relatively speaking, of course). What happened to city building and pride in public infrastructure?

Hopefully the Ontario Line is revised and the stations are as grand as they should be.
 
It's unfortunate how far the bar has dropped when it comes to Toronto transit design.

We seem content to get whatever scraps we get (relatively speaking, of course). What happened to city building and pride in public infrastructure?

Hopefully the Ontario Line is revised and the stations are as grand as they should be.
Most likely the decision makers don't even use public transit regularly. It is just a job to them.
 
It's unfortunate how far the bar has dropped when it comes to Toronto transit design.

We seem content to get whatever scraps we get (relatively speaking, of course). What happened to city building and pride in public infrastructure?

Hopefully the Ontario Line is revised and the stations are as grand as they should be.

Why is that important for tho, ppl are in the station for like 5-15minutes the most, do we really need everything to be opulent in order to get to your destination.

To me the most important thing are clean light and airy and easily replaceable
 
I agree on the platforms, however the other parts of the TYSSE architecture are quite nice.

The OL is going to be Toronto’s premier subway line (the first downtown line in 70 years), and it should get the architectural flourishes it deserves.
Agree, some of the downtown stations will be located in historically significant locations and my hope is that they somehow tie this into the station and platform designs.
 
Why is that important for tho, ppl are in the station for like 5-15minutes the most, do we really need everything to be opulent in order to get to your destination.

To me the most important thing are clean light and airy and easily replaceable
Some architectural fixtures and art features are inexpensive, a rounding error on a rounding error in the exorbitant transit prices of Toronto.

On the surface sections of Eglinton LRT, we could have had a wavy roof for little cost, instead of this:
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A wavy roof bus stop in Washington state.
 
Why is that important for tho, ppl are in the station for like 5-15minutes the most, do we really need everything to be opulent in order to get to your destination.

To me the most important thing are clean light and airy and easily replaceable

But that's just it: There is nothing clean, light, airy, or easily repairable about bare concrete walls that are water stained before the system even opens...
 
I have some major concerns with Crosslinx's road safety management with this project. They are handling it incredibly irresponsibly.

About two years ago, I personally witnessed a collision between two motor vehicles, that was quite clearly caused by Crosslinx's negligent safety management. In short, Crosslinx failed to remove outdated lane markings. They just painted new lane markings on top of the old. This resulted in conflicting lane markings directing drivers in two adjacent lane to occupy the same space on the road. The two drivers did exactly what the lane markings told them to do, and ended up in a collision as a result. This should've been a major wake up call, but alas...

I was travelling westbound on Eglinton at Ionview last night. The westbound lanes were closed, and westbound drivers were supposed to detour onto the eastbound lanes (on the southside of the road) to travel west.

There was no signage or police presence to indicate that the westbound lanes were closed. All they had were two or three barely visible pylons located in an unlit portion of the road to indicate that the westbound lanes were closed. Given how dark it was, it would not be unreasonable to expect a driver travelling at high speed to fail to observe the pylons until it was too late to stop.

Even more concerning, there was only a single sign directing westbound drivers to travel in the eastbound lane. Other than a single "merge left" sign, there was nothing at all directing these drivers to detour via the eastbound lanes.

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Please consider how complex this street is right now. The street was very wide, largely unlit, and has an unused centre median. It was not at all clear whether westbound drivers were supposed to turn left, move into the centre median, or detour onto the eastbound lanes. The unlit eastbound lanes had no visible markings or signage to indicate that westbound drivers were supposed to detour onto the eastbound lanes.

Over and over again I saw drivers stop in the centre of the intersection for extended periods, clueless about what they were supposed to do. Some even made dangerous moves, such as turning left without a protected left signal, because they were unable to determine what to do.

Further, as we continued westbound down the detour via the eastbound lanes, there were no stoplights at any of the intersections for the westbound drivers detouring via the eastbound lanes. Nor was there any police presence or signage explaining what to do. The normal westbound stoplights (located on the northern half of the road) were working, but they were barely visible from the detour on the southside of the road. Those stoplights were not in our line of vision (again, remember how wide this road is), and were frequently obstructed by transit shelters or other obstacles. It would be very easy for a driver unfamiliar with the area to obliviously speed through the intersection on a "red" light, which very well could become a fatal accident. I would have zero expectation whatsoever for an out-of-town driver to recognize that they need to stop at these intersections.

Now I noticed that Crosslinx did occasionally have employees posted at some of these conflict locations. I supposed they were supposed to be directing traffic, but they were clearly preoccupied with other things, or just not paying attention, so they were useless.

I have never before seen road safety management this poor with any project in the City of Toronto. I know City Councillors have made complaints about this, but Metrolinx and Crosslinx have been completely unresponsive. It's clear that they have no interest in ensuring a safe environment for road users along the Crosstown route.
 
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