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The plain tile design of BD is pretty good and often underappreciated. What destroys it is a) bad colour scheme, b) bad lighting. Off-blue with off-blue lighting. And dirt. *shudders*. The peachy colours tho, with the maroon trims, I quite like.

Sherbourne and Dundas West (and VP and Donlands) grey is pretty irredeemable.

Somber, depressing, morose, ...... did I mention ugly?

Just saying................

Sure Broadview is moderately sharp in White and Black........though uneven plaster ceilings in banal white......with crap lighting......and floors with no contrast take away from the effect.

I could also accept the two-tone green of Woodbine with the right complimentary choices (ceiling/lighting/floor).......

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In all seriousness, preference/taste is a subjective thing..............

But personally, I can't really get behind the B-D aesthetic, on the whole.

I don't do bland. ; I also prefer my bathroom aesthetic in the WC, not on the platform.
 
The plain tile design of BD is pretty good and often underappreciated. What destroys it is a) bad colour scheme, b) bad lighting. Off-blue with off-blue lighting. And dirt. *shudders*. The peachy colours tho, with the maroon trims, I quite like.

I think the main issue with the old subway line stations is the erosion of adherence to design standards and upkeep. If you look at the original photos from when the subway opened, there was a simple beauty to them. Changes to signage, lighting, etc. can have a significant impact on how we perceive these environments.

Kind of like how tearing up a landscaped sidewalk and filling it in with asphalt will seriously damage the perceived value of the area.
 
Some architectural fixtures and art features are inexpensive, a rounding error on a rounding error in the exorbitant transit prices of Toronto.

On the surface sections of Eglinton LRT, we could have had a wavy roof for little cost, instead of this:
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A wavy roof bus stop in Washington state.
I prefer the flat roofs...actually would've preferred they made the shelters much longer to provide more covered area.

Agree in principle though. When the St. Clair ROW opened I found the little touches elevated each stop to something beyond the usual TTC design.
 
A terminal station with side platforms?
Not that unusual, for example, Montreal has them. After unloading passengers on one platform, the train uses the tail tracks beyond the station to switch directions and then pick up passengers on the opposite platform. Works well for passenger flow since everyone is going in the same direction to/from each platform.
 
Not that unusual, for example, Montreal has them. After unloading passengers on one platform, the train uses the tail tracks beyond the station to switch directions and then pick up passengers on the opposite platform. Works well for passenger flow since everyone is going in the same direction to/from each platform.
Even the Toronto subway system had terminal stations with side platforms.

Keele and Woodbine stations on Line 2 both served as terminal stations from 1966 to 1968 and both stations have side platforms both then and now.
 
One platform for dropping off, one platform for picking up.

Not that unusual, for example, Montreal has them. After unloading passengers on one platform, the train uses the tail tracks beyond the station to switch directions and then pick up passengers on the opposite platform. Works well for passenger flow since everyone is going in the same direction to/from each platform.
I've also seen operations where, if there are future expansions projected, they simply build both platforms, and leave one unused for the time being.
 
Even the Toronto subway system had terminal stations with side platforms.

Keele and Woodbine stations on Line 2 both served as terminal stations from 1966 to 1968 and both stations have side platforms both then and now.
Unfortunately, the crossover tracks were BEFORE the side platforms. They were initially to have a central platform, but with the extension for Islington & Warden close by, they switched to side platforms for Keele & Woodbine.
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Not that unusual, for example, Montreal has them. After unloading passengers on one platform, the train uses the tail tracks beyond the station to switch directions and then pick up passengers on the opposite platform. Works well for passenger flow since everyone is going in the same direction to/from each platform.
This is a better layout since it allows for a shorter headway between trains, compared to a terminal station like Finch where the trains spend more time going through the longer crossover tracks, and block other movements while doing so.
 
Since I was running over 90 minutes behind schedule, did not cover the areas I wanted to on my visit today, but some hair scratching on what I saw.

From what I can tell, the westbound lanes from Hakim Ave to east of O'Conner Dr has been repave with final top and marked for lanes and bike lane that should be strip shortly. Eastbound lanes have be plane along with the ramp over the tracks. Drivers were a pain not only trying to get on/off the track, but around the raise manholes frames.

Until I have a closure look at the rest of the ROW from the DVP to Kennedy portal, it looks like the only grass well see in the ROW will be from the eastbound platform of Golden Mile Station to the westbound platform of Birchmount Station with various boxes still have to be built in the grass. Saw the sprinkler system in operation as I was walking west. 2 different style and have photos of them working. One is on the north side of the westbound track and standard type that does almost 180 degree swing covering both tracks and not in unison with each over and may requre adjustments or that's the way its to be. The other one is odd and against the concrete edge on the northside like a low fountain that doesn't cover all of the ROW from my point of view. A few areas have a small batch of grab grass and not surprise

Tons of cable work still to be done. Landscaping starting to take place.

Issue 1: In place of the normal 2 transit signals' that are working for each intersection tracks in each direction, there are 4. The standard on coming signal in place like TTC ones, but another set on the opposite facing LRV's coming from the opposite with one point toward the driver if they are stop for a light. I stand to be corrected, but with the crossing signals for pedestrians to either get across the road or the stop is partly blocking the on coming vehicle signal. I try putting myself in the seat of a LRV driver and one signal is block from view and the other partly. The signals for pedestrians are cover up and not fully setup. Have never seen this 4e signal setup anywhere in the world I have been to that has trans/streetcars.

Issue 2: Transportation Toronto continue to make cars the God of the road by forcing the LRV to stop 10 seconds sooner for a red than a car. I time a number of light changes and the LRV must stop 10 second sooner based on the timing I did. Does this meant the LRV's will be running at higher speeds than the cars??

Issue 3: Why is there this huge wide sidewalk across the middle of the block where there is to be no one crossing the tracks between stations??

Issue 4: Why is concrete being pour to fully encase the track from intersection to intersection when it would be better off to either leave it as is or place grass there in the first place?? Total unfriendly to the environment and huge waste of money??

Photos will be on line when I get to them and part of the 506 I shot Sept 19.
 
This is a better layout since it allows for a shorter headway between trains, compared to a terminal station like Finch where the trains spend more time going through the longer crossover tracks, and block other movements while doing so.
The placement of the crossovers in front of or behind a station has absolutely zero bearing on the minimum headway that the system it capable of running. All of the same issues regarding speed of the crossovers and the amount of time spent occupying them remain.

Crossover geometry, signal circuit lengths, and clearance time all have a far larger factor in determining the minimum headway possible.

Dan
 
The placement of the crossovers in front of or behind a station has absolutely zero bearing on the minimum headway that the system it capable of running. All of the same issues regarding speed of the crossovers and the amount of time spent occupying them remain.

Crossover geometry, signal circuit lengths, and clearance time all have a far larger factor in determining the minimum headway possible.

Dan
Yes, the geometry at Finch, with it's longer crossovers since it has a center platform, mean a longer headway, a side platform terminal station should have the crossovers beyond the station
 

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