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Random question, when we talk about TSP

Or signal priority

We are talking about left turns going last while through traffic goes ahead along with the train correct ? (Why isn't this done now regardless. Are we really looking after left turning vehicles here)

Or are there sensors that when a train approaches the light will turn green? (Is this safe)
 
APTA-2048 said:
Heard from a friend at the TTC that Eglinton and Finch vehicles will be allowed to go full speed through intersections. Why this doesn’t apply to the legacy system, especially the Queensway, is another discussion…
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No crappy switches?
 
Coruscanti Cognoscente said:
Yeah the Finch test vehicles seem quite fast. If Eglinton is allowed to move that fast then that would be great.
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They may be capable of high speed, but Metrolinx is officially only planning to operate Finch LRT at 17 kph average speed. This is no faster than the bus it replaces, off peak, but it does improve over peak times because there is a dedicated ROW.
 
afransen said:
No crappy switches?
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No. However that’s only one of the reasons they are forced to go slow. After an accident where the streetcar was not at fault, management’s bright idea was to force streetcars to crawl through intersections. It’s such an infuriating knee jerk reaction that makes service worse.
 
APTA-2048 said:
No. However that’s only one of the reasons they are forced to go slow. After an accident where the streetcar was not at fault, management’s bright idea was to force streetcars to crawl through intersections. It’s such an infuriating knee jerk reaction that makes service worse.
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If it comes to it, put in the godawful crossing gates to idiot-proof the intersections.

If we can't get this right, we need to stop spending this kind of money on transit that is not fully grade separated.
 
steviej1 said:
So I was driving along Eglinton earlier on the east end and I stumbled upon a crosstown vehicle. It got met with every single traffic light. It was beyond slow. It also went through each intersection quite slowly. This is quite sad. A perfect example of throwing away billions on an "LRT".
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LemonCondo said:
It's in testing.
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something to keep in mind it isn't service testing yet that will likely happen once crosslinks is finished with all construction and it is officially handed over to Metrolink, or sometime once Metrolink's and the TTC are satisfied that they can begin testing the service. They will likely do three months of testing of a simulated service like they did before the extension to Vaughn was opened on line 1 when they would run deadhead or ghost trains from Sheppard west after having everyone get off before heading north to Vaugh and tuning back to pick up people at Sheppard west again.
 
afransen said:
They may be capable of high speed, but Metrolinx is officially only planning to operate Finch LRT at 17 kph average speed. This is no faster than the bus it replaces, off peak, but it does improve over peak times because there is a dedicated ROW.
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this isn't accurate, i know one of their information sheets said 17kph but a metrolinx rep clarified this to me at an event and told me the avg speed would be around ~23kph
 
Aplus23 said:
Random question, when we talk about TSP

Or signal priority

We are talking about left turns going last while through traffic goes ahead along with the train correct ? (Why isn't this done now regardless. Are we really looking after left turning vehicles here)

Or are there sensors that when a train approaches the light will turn green? (Is this safe)
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Everyone is thinking of the second one I believe.
 
turbanplanner said:
I've driven the entire length of the 512 route and only saw 1 vehicle in the direction I was going, and it was about to loop around the other way.
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And do you know for a fact that there wasn't some major delay along the route that caused this?

TTC line management is bad, sure, but not this bad.

Also, what does this have to do with the Crosstown?
Aplus23 said:
Or are there sensors that when a train approaches the light will turn green? (Is this safe)
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Provided the vehicle is detected early enough, why wouldn't it?
 
afransen said:
No crappy switches?
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They have a signal system that will assist with switch position. Eglinton has fancy signals for those crossovers. This is not something they have on the legacy network.

I suppose the switch is set from control centre oppose to by the operators directly from the streetcar. Which is they they want them to stop and look in case they didn’t pay attention.
 
afransen said:
If it comes to it, put in the godawful crossing gates to idiot-proof the intersections.

If we can't get this right, we need to stop spending this kind of money on transit that is not fully grade separated.
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Or just do what Phoenix does: install supplemental LED signage warning of an approaching LRV/streetcar. That city has a lot of median LRT operation, but without the railway signals used in Calgary or Edmonton.

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I managed to get another picture of these screens. It looks like they are showing two camera footage from 2 different spots above the tracks. The screen looks to be about where the driver could see them while stopped, and they are only on one side, the other screen is at the opposite side of the platform, facing the other way.

Could they be for the driver to make sure no one is behind them or something?

Or is this just a holding screen for the test drivers?
 
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