W. K. Lis
Superstar
Empty of cars, yes. More people walking, cycling, or using the streetcars.
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afransen
Senior Member
If cars are holding up streetcars, I consider that a problem.
evandyk
Senior Member
I'm on the King streetcar every day (or walking along King if the toddler isn't in tow) and to be honest, compliance among cars isn't bad. I think they should put red light cameras to really enforce it, but places like Front and Jarvis are way worse.
turbanplanner
Active Member
Eh fairly empty right now of the others but my point was I don't see why everyone wants to dump so many resources into stopping the handful of violators that have a minimal effect if any on the street.
ADRM
Senior Member
Verbatim quote from a TPS officer to me this past summer: “I’m not supposed to say this, but we’re honestly pretty bored and kind of looking for stuff to do a lot of the time.”
I had to go for a walk to cool down.
drum118
Superstar
The rental agencies goes after the renter to pay the bill that gets added to your credit card at a later date. I have received invoices for US tolls when there is no toll booths to pay the toll in the first place and it has been charged to my card.
There is a cost for all parties trying to recovered the cost of that bill and is usually higher than than the bill in most cases, depending on the bill. In some cases, the renter has paid by cash and that becomes an issues to the point the bill is written off.
That depends on the day of the week and the time of the day.. Regardless if the street is empty, obey the rules of the road or pay the price not doing it.
I guess you haven't watch the traffic on King much and if so, a lot more is taking place than you think.
turbanplanner
Active Member
What division was he? Traffic? was he doing paid duty? I could see it in those cases but there is always shit going down, and I doubt they'd leave an officer a few blocks away dealing with trouble on their own
TossYourJacket
Senior Member
If only there were traffic laws they could actually enforce for once to fill that time...
That would be ridiculous though.
turbanplanner
Active Member
Don't believe everything you hear on the internet.
ADRM
Senior Member
Regular, paid duty, standing beside three other guys from the downtown division just hanging around. .
drum118
Superstar
Whoa!! you see officers standing around and doing don't. That a huge change from seeing no police vehicles or the odd of one handing out tickets from my experience. Have seen them follow illegal cars going through an intersection and never stop those drivers at all.
crs1026
Superstar
This is a huge problem with TPS - which I wouldn’t level at OPP, or any of the local Regional forces.
TPS has a huge “standing around” mentality. Sure they handle lots of high-adrenaline 911 calls….. but their tolerance for just standing around in groups is enormous. Even bicycle patrols and mounted patrols are often 3 or 4 person social events where 2 officers can handle the task.
I’m not a Defund the Police supporter, but there is ample evidence that TPS needs to change some things, and stopping the lollygagging and making yourself useful is top of my list.
- Paul
W. K. Lis
Superstar
turbanplanner
Active Member
We should have a camera that tickets you if you're in the "box" but at the same time I get why people drive like that. I used to drive down university to get to the highway. And you'd maybe get 5 cars through a light cycle.
The issue was when your light is red, perpendicular traffic turns right and "fills" the lane. It's a shit scenario that has built a bad habit for lots of downtown drivers.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Another reason for getting the no right turn on red "suggestion".
Saying "suggestion" because it seems many take those laws, signs, signal lights, and road designs as "suggestions".
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