Barnaby
Senior Member
Siemens (S200), Alstom (Citadis & Flexity), Stadler (CITYLINK), CAF (They might hate Alberta now), Hyundai Rotem?...
I'd prefer the S200 and AlstomU5 type Flexity.
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I'd prefer the S200 and AlstomU5 type Flexity.
HappyJazzz
Active Member
Wow, that hybrid seat layout is really.. quaint. Haven't seen something like that on a metro in ages! Doesn't bench seating along the sides offer a much greater overall capacity without reducing the number of seats much?
Seems like it would be the wiser choice if the trains are getting crushed with users at commute times.
Barnaby
Senior Member
Yeah bench seating is the highest capacity. People like front back seats though, and the input received leaned mostly towards the hybrid option. It's still higher capacity than the current seating arrangement. Reminds me of an Embraer seating layout.
BrettB
Active Member
The last purchase of SkyTrain cars (the Mark IV) has 2x1 seating and they offer a tonne of standing room. The newer Mark V has an unusual combination of forward facing seats opposite a bench of sideways facing seats.
SarcasticMarmot
Active Member
I think alot of the public likes the forward seats when the trains aren't super full, which with our LRT system is most of the day outside of rush hour.
Habibfazil
Active Member
wow, a complete lack of hanging straps, lots of space for standees though, and in hindsight, yeah good for a cyclist to control their bike in tranist...
EdwardEdm
Active Member
Kinki Sharyo also comes to mind. Not sure is Hitachi is still doing LRV's, but they acquired AnsaldoBreda who had built cars for more recently Los Angeles, but also for San Francisco and the MBTA to replace their Boeing's. Well, I guess replacing Boeing LRV's isn't terribly recent now, that was 24 years ago for MBTA.
Options for 24.8m cars and up to 31.0m length cars. I really liked what Portland did ordering S70's with a single cab and then running them as pairs. I always thought that would good for Edmonton, but alas, they will be the standard dual cabs.
Overall capacity for a 4 car 31.0m train is supposed to increase by 50 passengers vs a 5 car 24.8m train.
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EdwardEdm
Active Member
Came across this rather nicely done page on Edmonton's Siemens fleet: https://www.mobility.siemens.com/us...making-transformative-change-in-edmonton.html
Their note of the U2's interior refurbishment is a bit off. It was much more than an interior refurbishment. I'm surprised it even gets a mention since a competitor did it. Maybe that's why it was only noted as an interior refurbishment.
Interesting to see the S200 reference on it, but I certainly wouldn't look too much into that.
Their note of the U2's interior refurbishment is a bit off. It was much more than an interior refurbishment. I'm surprised it even gets a mention since a competitor did it. Maybe that's why it was only noted as an interior refurbishment.
Interesting to see the S200 reference on it, but I certainly wouldn't look too much into that.
J_gordo
Active Member
https://mailchi.mp/edmonton/constru...ine-south-lrt-extension-17458043?e=b8798a3aaa
CLDB starting work on the OMF. Also avoid 111st and 23ave like the plague. Will be a mess for the next few weeks
CLDB starting work on the OMF. Also avoid 111st and 23ave like the plague. Will be a mess for the next few weeks
fromyeg
Active Member
New stations would be great for the area.
Stadium Station redesign sees calls for service drop by 50%
Edmonton's head of transit said a redesign that emphasizes visibility has turned one of the least safe LRT stations in the city into one of the safest.
edmonton.taproot.news
IanO
Superstar
This should be a priority to better connect EXPO as the existing is pretty awful.
Habibfazil
Active Member
If this is the plan (as has been noted elsewhere) closing coliseum, then why a refurb? Build the 2 new stations and not waste another cent on coliseum.iseums
New stations would be great for the area.
Stadium Station redesign sees calls for service drop by 50%
Edmonton's head of transit said a redesign that emphasizes visibility has turned one of the least safe LRT stations in the city into one of the safest.
Anybody else remember the West Edmonton Mall station refurbishment, then demolition for the new lrt station. They already had the plans, should have built it and forgot the refurb? I'm, impressed with the waste in this city...
EdwardEdm
Active Member
Elaborating more on WEM: Originally planned as a rebuild in 2014 for the 2015-2018 Capital Budget cycle, but while approved, it was only on the condition that admin had to come back with other options in light of future LRT in 2015. Admin came back recommending saving $1.4 million by refurbishing the transit centre building rather than building a new building. The $1.4 million would be made available to other projects. Council approved April 2015... I haven't tracked down any council documents that explain how the hell we ended up building a whole new structure only to completely tear it down 4 years later. The only items that were saved were some of the furniture, although, the glass might have been reusable at other locations.
SarcasticMarmot
Active Member
I think part of the problem is the uncertainty of transit funding cycles. They could hold off on refurbishing the station because they plan to demolish and build two new ones, but then we could end up with 20 years of frugal councils who decline to fund demolition and two new stations. Would you be happy if the station remained untouched for 20 more years? Conversely, recognizing that council has no money on the horizon, they could decide to refurbish it in two years and then a year after that the Feds release a funding program for remodeling old transit lines across Canada. Should they pass on building the two new stations because they had just refurbished the Coliseum station?
Alot of this would be fixed if we had purpose focused and consistent transit investment. But that would require adult decision making on the part of our leaders, and that ain't happening.
thommyjo
Senior Member
The west valley line wasn’t expected to be funded until the 2030s. That’s why the transit centre refurb and then tear down just years later. Feds came through with huge transit funding way sooner than expected.
In some ways, wasteful (also see SPR being redone just years before the LRT too). In other ways, tough to predict funding from other orders of government.
A good example today is what to do with the High Level Bridge. What if the province decides to drop a billion dollars to help rebuild it as a massive HSR connector in the next 5 years? Or what if nothing happens for the next 20? What does the city do in the meantime?