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lenaitch said:
Curious what those values would be. I've heard "Laurentian elites" referred to as persons or groups but not a set of values.
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If you want to know the antithesis to "Laurentian elite" values, Google "21 Park Lane Circle".
 
adma said:
If you want to know the antithesis to "Laurentian elite" values, Google "21 Park Lane Circle".
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Ya, you're going have to spoon feed me. It's a big - very big - house, but it tells me nothing about the values of the owner other than they have a lot of money (or debt). Is the definition of an "elite", regardless of geography, simply someone who has nice things and you don't?

Besides, 'antithesis' means opposite/contrast, so 21 Park Lane Circle does not represent a Laurentian Elite?
 
lenaitch said:
Ya, you're going have to spoon feed me. It's a big - very big - house, but it tells me nothing about the values of the owner other than they have a lot of money (or debt). Is the definition of an "elite", regardless of geography, simply someone who has nice things and you don't?

Besides, 'antithesis' means opposite/contrast, so 21 Park Lane Circle does not represent a Laurentian Elite?
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DRAKE. HAS. NO. TASTE. HE. IS. A. VULGAR. PHILISTINE.

***harrumph***

Or to put it another way, it's like to go back to the 2014 mayoral election, the difference btw/"Ford rich" and "John Tory rich". New money vs old money. Both may have been fundamentally "conservative"; but John Tory being of the sort which the so-called Laurentian consensus could live with. (And while I don't want to presently dig up old data, I've a feeling that Doug Ford would have swept the floor w/the 18-34s who would have found John Tory too "mom & dad" and staid for their liking.)

Besides, "Laurentian elite" is less a monetary thing than, well, a state of mind which isn't always about having *physical* things--perhaps more comparable to the "mass middle monoculture" that was the US's chosen Cold War self-image. After all, the CBC wasn't and isn't just available to the "monied class"--but yeah, in our neo-liberal age, it can seem like the "means of knowing" are increasingly arcane and inaccessible to all but the rich (how much do newspapers and magazines cost now compared to 30 years ago, etc). And of course, it depends on *how* one chooses to be rich, particularly in an age where fitness rooms are deemed greater household necessities than libraries or studies...
 
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Northern Light said:
Did anyone else see this poison in the Globe and Mail? :

www.theglobeandmail.com

Opinion: Mark Carney poses a threat to national unity

If he remains prime minister after this election, there is a very real possibility that Western Canada will move to secede
www.theglobeandmail.com www.theglobeandmail.com

Preston Manning implying that voting for Mark Carney is supporting breaking up the country because Alberta will want to leave. Yikes......

For the record, the polling firm he cites suggests support for that might be as high as 20%........ its a non-starter.
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If Preston Manning is saying that someone as middle-of-the-road as Mark Carney is elected, presenting bog-standard Liberal platform planks, is a threat to national unity because of western secessionists, he might as well just come out as a separatist.

The article is basically just Manning presenting us with the cowboy version of the Parti Quebecois. And we all know from decades of experience what catering to them has gotten us.

Preston Manning has always been pretty gross, but thankfully he's been pretty quiet for the last decade. He should go back to that.
 
British Columbians and Manitobans must be getting pretty sick of the wexit nonsense that keeps popping up. They don't have the same political leanings as Alberta and Saskatchewan apart from rural areas that have the minority of the population. Yet they always get lumped into western grievances that usually amount to complaints that Canada isn't conservative enough. Pretty sure that most people in BC and Manitoba don't share that opinion.
 
evandyk said:
If Preston Manning is saying that someone as middle-of-the-road as Mark Carney is elected, presenting bog-standard Liberal platform planks, is a threat to national unity because of western secessionists, he might as well just come out as a separatist.
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Agreed. Presenting a centrist, run of the mill candidate like Carney as some sort of radical and divisive figure just make them lose credibility.
 
And most will vote for Carney because he plans to bring this country together and not the other way round, Preston. But I guess you’re not capable of reading that room.
 
Today's Mark Carney promise is an interesting one......though probably won't shift many votes.

An immediate boost to CBC's budget of 150M (current budget is 1.38B per year so that would be to 1.53B).

But perhaps more intriguing if ephemeral is a suggestion of further increases until CBC reaches a funding level comparable to international public broadcasting norms.

Just getting to Australian per capita levels would be a nearly 50% increase to ~2B per year.

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From: https://www.policyalternatives.ca/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/bang-for-our-buck.pdf

If you took a middle of the pack number, say the Netherlands above......that would be over 3B per year.
 
Coolibop said:
Watching the French Liberal leadership debate...i can see that he (Carney) must have been practicing, and looks much better. I am much more confident it is sufficient for the French speaking population.
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A good summary of Carney’s improving French.


I also like how, aside from the Cons trying to make a big deal of it, Quebecers are reportedly quite forgiving of Carney’s French. For an Edmontonian, he’s making excellent progress. If you hear him in the above video, his cadence and tone are reassuring and confident. Carney will be fine in French - he’s probably already well ahead of our Quebec-born GG.
 
Carney does have a tendency to start off in French and then switch to English, but yes, French Canadians are forgiving of this. As a born anglophone who married into a French Canadian family, this has also been my experience over the years. They speak English with a French accent, and I speak French with an English accent, and we all make mistakes. Chretien has always been the poster child for gaffes in both languages.

I also think it is a reflection of the current nationalistic sentiment in Quebec these days. Separatist rhetoric has been put to the side in favour of fighting for Canada as a whole. At least for now, Quebec is more focussed on who can best deal with Trump and tariffs and all that comes along with that and less concerned about full and fluent bilingualism.
 
^An association of mine in the anecdote commented that Chretien neither spoke French or English some time ago. I asked him was does he really speak then, and he replied, "We're not sure..." >.<
 
PinkLucy said:
I also think it is a reflection of the current nationalistic sentiment in Quebec these days. Separatist rhetoric has been put to the side in favour of fighting for Canada as a whole. At least for now, Quebec is more focussed on who can best deal with Trump and tariffs and all that comes along with that and less concerned about full and fluent bilingualism.
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Trump’s talk of annexing Canada and his declaration that English would be the official language leave Quebecers with no doubt about the importance of defending Canada and standing up for the country. Not since the US wars of Independence and 1812 (where again francophone Canadians worried about US invasion) have we had such a foreign booster of national unity.
 
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