[duty free]

Besides the Lake Shore Lines which routes do we through-run? There is an imbalance between the routes east and west of union so which lines would we pair with the Stouffville and Richmond Hill lines? Also keep in mind ML also has plans to construct the Bolton Line which will add another route to the west of union. So we can through-run 6 of the lines while 2 would terminate at Union.

Sorry I thought it was obvious, maybe it's not.

1. Lakeshore East + Lakeshore West
2. Kitchener + Stouffville
3. Barrie + Richmond Hill

That's three through running lines potentially.

Milton + Bolton can terminate at Union or both could potentially through run to a station east of Union as well or better yet use the North Toronto subdivision (Midtown) and avoid Union altogether also increasing the capacity of the station.

So when can we expect the Lakeshore lines to through run?

Here's a link to the document: usrc-track-study_mainreport.pdf

 

[WB62]

You can see in the table above what the maximum capacity of Union is without a tunnel and what it could scale to with one. As of now we don't need one, but look at the potential of having one and tell me that it wouldn't be transformative to transit in the region. One step at a time.

Keep in mind this was made before the USEP project was planned, that project alone is going to be able to boost the numbers shown on that table significantly. If the rest of the USRC is reconfigured in a similar fashion, there will be way more possible throughput per hour.

 

[ssiguy2]

In terms of electrification, there alternatives which I will not mention here as that is disallowed but I have started a new forum on alternative train technologies so anyone looking for alternatives to ML "plans", I encourage you to visit the thread as there are many electrification technologies I think most of you would fine interesting. Thanks.

 

[generalcanada]

In terms of electrification, there alternatives which I will not mention here as that is disallowed but I have started a new forum on alternative train technologies so anyone looking for alternatives to ML "plans", I encourage you to visit the thread as there are many electrification technologies I think most of you would fine interesting. Thanks.

 

[ssiguy2]

^^^ Thanks for the intelligent and reasoned response.

 

[urbancog]

Work seems to be starting continuing up on electrification design, as Alstom is recruiting for an Overhead Catenary System (OCS) Design Leader

"As part of the ONxpress consortium, Alstom is proudly working to transform the collective mobility of the Greater Toronto and Hamilton areas (GTHA) through the On-Corridor Works project."

"The GO Expansion scope : new electric locomotives, fleet upgrades, train control systems, network electrification, signalling, telecommunications and digital systems, maintenance..."

 

[duffo]

Work seems to be starting up on electrification design, as Alstom is recruiting for an Overhead Catenary System (OCS) Design Leader

"As part of the ONxpress consortium, Alstom is proudly working to transform the collective mobility of the Greater Toronto and Hamilton areas (GTHA) through the On-Corridor Works project."

"The GO Expansion scope : new electric locomotives, fleet upgrades, train control systems, network electrification, signalling, telecommunications and digital systems, maintenance..."

Work has been ongoing for quite some time (years?) and I think this is honestly just to replace an existing role.

 

[JSF-1]

Thought you guys might enjoy this (I found it while working on my video for the Toronto Suburban Railway). It is a video of what I believe to be the only instance of an electric passenger train in Toronto. It is an "excursion" train running from The Junction (Keele & St.Clair) to Eldorado Park in Brampton via the GUELPH Interurban Line. Canadian National Electric Railways would run these trains in the summer from 1925 to 1930. It's a glimpse at a future that never was as the CNER had a grand vision of connecting the GUELPH and WOODBRIDGE Interurbans to the unbuilt Toronto Eastern Railway via the Belt Line; creating a single "high-speed" interurban route from Guelph in the west to Cobourg in the east. There were plans for additional branch lines to Woodbridge, Uxbridge, Lindsay, and Peterborough, as well as a branch to a new interurban terminal downtown around Queen and the Don River. This was vision was never achieved though as the CNER got hit with the 1-2 punch of declining ridership due to car and bus usage, and the Province refusing to fund it as they saw interurbans as an antiquated technology. It makes you wonder what it would have looked like today if completed (and it survived the post-war car boom).

 

[ssiguy2]

Work has been ongoing for quite some time (years?) and I think this is honestly just to replace an existing role.

No kidding. When ML's own site has no longer mentions electrification of 15 or better service, I think it's fair to say that issue, at least for the foreseeable future, is dead. The sooner the long suffering Torontonian commuters acknowledge this, the better they'll sleep.

 

[WB62]

No kidding. When ML's own site has no longer mentions electrification of 15 or better service, I think it's fair to say that issue, at least for the foreseeable future, is dead.

Strange, I seem to find mentions of electrification and 15 minute service all over the Metrolinx website:

 

[nfitz]

No kidding. When ML's own site has no longer mentions electrification of 15 or better service, I think it's fair to say that issue, at least for the foreseeable future, is dead.

If that ever happens, it might be fair to say it.

But some sillies are saying it now despite the ML site mentioning electrification or 15 or better service!

 

[cplchanb]

The question is.... if the project is dead where the fuk did the money that was allocated to it go??!?!! whos pockets were lined?

 

[WB62]

The question is.... if the project is dead where the fuk did the money that was allocated to it go??!?!! whos pockets were lined?

The project is not dead, no ifs or buts, it just isn’t.

Billions have been invested into GO over the past 10 years and the amount of weekly trains has doubled since then, billions more will continue to be invested and we will continue to see service increasing.

 

[cplchanb]

The project is not dead, no ifs or buts, it just isn’t.

Billions have been invested into GO over the past 10 years and the amount of weekly trains has doubled since then, billions more will continue to be invested and we will continue to see service increasing.

Ok so we paid for a Mercedes and so far we are getting a civic...

Or we decided to put a down payment for musks roadster vaporware. Its coming.....but when... nobody knows

 

[Urban Sky]

Ok so we paid for a Mercedes and so far we are getting a civic...

No, you are paying for the largest investment program any metropolitan passenger rail network in North America has ever seen and that is also what you are getting. No reason to whine around just because the most ambitious project to ever proceed to constructuon stage was not ambitious enough for your personal tastes…