ThenWhat
Active Member
Adil Shamji, MPP for the Don Valley East riding, is asking for a public enquiry into ELRT. He is circulating a petition to that effect, which you can sign.
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ThenWhat
Active Member
Adding more traffic lights would not be a problem if they were set up to give priority to the trains. We can have a traffic light every 100 meters as long the LRT always has the green light.I agree with what you posted above but I only wonder if adding even more traffic lights will delay the line even further and also make the surface section slower than it already is
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
Just put a low fence down the devilstrip (the section between the opposite direction tracks. Let squirrels, raccoons, coyotes, and geese be able to cross, but give a suggestion to automobiles, humans, cattle, and bisons not to.
hawc
Senior Member
As long as the bisons can get from the north side safely across to graze on the south side.
crs1026
Superstar
No, it's the racoons that Toronto needs to give priority....let Winnipeg deal with the Bison.
Seriously, if one of the things we accept when planning LRT is that a street becomes uncrossable, we are making bad decisions.... especially if we plan to develop the street with high density. There's a lot of "cuts both ways" here... if crossing alternatives are too limited, we are creating the hazard.... but if we provide some reasonable standard, then people who don't make the effort to use them may lose our sympathy somewhat. I won't take a firm and hard position, but my gut says Eglinton isn't in the sweet spot yet.... and Finch has at least the same room for improvement. Hopefully we wake up and deal with this before more incidents happen.
- Paul
Bojaxs
Senior Member
Ah jeez! We should have just restarted construction on the Eglinton subway after Mike Harris was voted out. This is ridiculous!
In regards to keeping pedestrians off the track. We could do what Calgary does with the C-train. Just put up jersey barriers dividing the track from the road. It works 100% of the time, keeping both pedestrians and automobiles off the track. Unfortunately though it makes for a rather ugly streetscape.
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Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
Why did the chicken cross the light rail right-of-way?
To get a ride on the LRV.
The chicken shows it is not chicken to ride the subway.
What should P,O.O. do in this case?
To get a ride on the LRV.
The chicken shows it is not chicken to ride the subway.
What should P,O.O. do in this case?
goodcitywhenfinished
Active Member
Knowing the risk tolerance of the TTC, yeah the Scarborough section of track will be operating at 30km/h pretty soon.
Sauga89
Active Member
I would worry more about people jaywalking to and from platforms, rather than about those trying to cross the street between stations. I've never seen anyone jaywalk across Hurontario, but I imagine some people won't wait at the crosswalk for the pedestrian signal.
Bojaxs
Senior Member
So how is that going to work? The trains will runs faster in the underground portion, but run slower at the at-grade portion? Will the trains have to run slower in the underground portion in order to match the speed of the above ground portion? Trains in the underground portion will have to wait longer at stations to allow for proper spacing between trains?
30km/h is pretty pitiful. No one should be referring to this line as "rapid" transit. A lot of money was spent for what's essentially a glorified streetcar.
T3G
Senior Member
Slower speeds at one part of a line have never been the cause of bunching, unless the speed restrictions are followed by some vehicles but not others.
Further reading:
Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis
oes this mean trains going through the underground and grade separated portions of the line will be relegated to travel at the same speed as the trains travelling along the eastern/ at grade portion of the line? No, they just need to maintain a constant rate of speed in relation to other cars...
TOtramz
Active Member
Has there been any testing today?
I think normal rapid transit lines are back up and running shortly after the injured people and vehicles are evacuated from the premises....
I think normal rapid transit lines are back up and running shortly after the injured people and vehicles are evacuated from the premises....
Steve X
Senior Member
The trains are driven manually on the surface section so they just drive slowly in trouble zones. The trip run time will extend requiring more trains on the line at the same time but headways will remain the same. So they can still operate at 80 km/h in the tunnels and 50/60 km/h elsewhere on the surface.
Are they even doing the allowed 60 on the surface? I don’t remember.
Bojaxs
Senior Member
But this is what I want to know. Will the underground portion of the line have to slow down to match the at-grade portion of the line?Slower speeds at one part of a line have never been the cause of bunching, unless the speed restrictions are followed by some vehicles but not others.
Further reading:
Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis
oes this mean trains going through the underground and grade separated portions of the line will be relegated to travel at the same speed as the trains travelling along the eastern/ at grade portion of the line? No, they just need to maintain a constant rate of speed in relation to other cars...urbantoronto.ca
Also how is spacing between trains going to be affected if you have an eastbound train hitting every red light at the at-grade portion, and there is a train behind them in the underground portion catching up because they have no street lights to adhere to.
Bojaxs
Senior Member
I don't understand how that can work. How does that not lead to a bunching up of eastbound trains? Particularly around the tunnel portal. Especially when you take streetlights on the surface portion into account.
We have a transit line that effectively acts as a metro/subway for 2/3 of the line, and then the last 1/3 acts as a street car/ LRT. How does that not lead to operational complexities? Particularly around train spacing.
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