MisterF
Senior Member
Completely ignoring that the democratically elected city council has already made decisions about how to get traffic moving.
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Northern Light
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CONSULTATION ALERT!!!
The City of Toronto has released the dates for the Kingston Road Phase 2 public consultations! A virtual one will be held on Tuesday, October 21 at 7 PM while an in person one will be held on Monday, October 27 (6:00 - 8:30 PM) at R.H. King Academy (3800 St Clair Avenue East). The presentation materials are now up while you can submit your feedback until Monday, November 3.
A Safer Kingston Road
City Council has approved the bikeways and road safety improvements on Kingston Road, from Cliffside Drive to Scarborough Golf Club Road. A copy of the staff report is available at IE 26.6. See details under Approved Changes. The City of Toronto is moving forward with changes to...www.toronto.ca
Some additional detail by way of the information panels:
A link to the full set of panels here:
The roll plans are here:
I'm going to put some thought into the above..........
I think the section near Clarence might have a bit more space to pinch.
Items to consider: Minor pinch to existing median. Is 1.6M of concrete necessary beside the left hand turn lane when it has no landscaping and is not a pedestrian refuge island? The bulk of the 4.6M median should be retained as it has trees, options for narrowing are limited, however, its edged in concrete, somewhere in/around 0.3/0.4m wide, could that be reduced to 0.1?
As the south side illustrates, a buffer can be created with as little as 0.3M.
Alternatively, the curb lane here is 3.3M. There is a compelling argument for that in general, but in this case, the lane is coming to an end with a forced right, could we pinch it down to 0.3M? Things over which to ponder.
@TwinHuey is duly flagged.
bearcat
Active Member
I like how at least according to Google Maps there is no such thing as Clissold Street lol, it's Road. But also can they really fit two car lanes in each direction and a protected cycle track under the railway & subway bridges?
DSCToronto
Superstar
Details, details!
chrisw
Active Member
Buffered bike lanes to be added in Markham. Construction start date Aug-Dec 2025.
Active Transportation Facilities Implementation Program
Upcoming Road Improvements & Cycling Infrastructure The City of Markham will be carrying out road improvements on several streets, including Calvert Road, Clegg Road, Allstate Parkway, Ferrier Street, and Gillingham Avenue & Elson Street, to accommodate the
yourvoicemarkham.ca
MisterF
Senior Member
If they mean buffered but with no physical separation then most of those bike lanes will 100% be infested with parked cars.View attachment 687049
Buffered bike lanes to be added in Markham. Construction start date Aug-Dec 2025.
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Active Transportation Facilities Implementation Program
Upcoming Road Improvements & Cycling Infrastructure The City of Markham will be carrying out road improvements on several streets, including Calvert Road, Clegg Road, Allstate Parkway, Ferrier Street, and Gillingham Avenue & Elson Street, to accommodate the
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Paint is not bicycle infrastructure.
Northern Light
Superstar
If you look at the panels I posted, about 1/2 of the cycle tracks have permanent concrete curbs separating them from traffic, wherever the road is being repaved.
Most of the rest is paint, with flexiposts, because no major roadwork is planned, so this is the temporary version.
There is one section with only paint..............and I'm working on changing that.
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Admiral Beez
Superstar
Nice. Can you elaborate on the compromise the Toronto Star mention this morning? The paper is short on details.
How can you keep bike lanes and return two lanes of traffic? If it's possible, we should have done that in the first place.
Northern Light
Superstar
This way:
You see the concrete median beside the left hand turn lane; that is coming out. That gives you ~ 1.2M to play with.
Noting that I have not seen the roll plan for this segment. I did measure the lane widths, and there is about 1.3M of available room by cutting the lanes to 3.0M wide each That gives you ~2.5M which is pretty close to what you need.
I don't know, but suspect they may also push the north sidewalk back a bit, its public land, and it would be pretty easy to steal another 0.5M if you needed it.
The left turn lane itself can be trimmed by 0.3m as well.
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On the east side of the underpass, room can be poached from the big yellowed out centre area:
The bike lanes don't show in the above image, but I can measure curb to curb, you have ~18M of play, you require 12M to support 4x3M lanes, and 5M, more or less for 2 separated cycle tracks. Its do-able. The space is there.
You can't do the same thing on the downtown sections of Bloor which are much narrower.
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bearcat
Active Member
Okay, I am still not sure what the plan is under the bridges? Will they really be able to fit two car lanes and a cycle track?
Northern Light
Superstar
I haven't seen the roll plan, but yes, there is sufficient room.
TwoWheelPoli
Active Member
The City of Toronto just updated their cycling public consultation page and one more project has emerged. Keele from Finch to Steeles.
www.toronto.ca
While there are not any public meetings scheduled, you can fill out a survey until Monday, October 20. Here are a couple of diagrams to show what is being proposed to save @Northern Light some work.
Keele Street Safety and Bikeway Improvements
November 2025: City staff will present recommendations to the Infrastructure and Environment Committee at their meeting on December 3. A copy of the staff report is available under agenda item IE26.6. You can arrange to speak or submit comments to the Committee by contacting the Administrator at...
www.toronto.ca
While there are not any public meetings scheduled, you can fill out a survey until Monday, October 20. Here are a couple of diagrams to show what is being proposed to save @Northern Light some work.
Northern Light
Superstar
The City of Toronto just updated their cycling public consultation page and one more project has emerged. Keele from Finch to Steeles.
Keele Street Safety and Bikeway Improvements
November 2025: City staff will present recommendations to the Infrastructure and Environment Committee at their meeting on December 3. A copy of the staff report is available under agenda item IE26.6. You can arrange to speak or submit comments to the Committee by contacting the Administrator at...
While there are not any public meetings scheduled, you can fill out a survey until Monday, October 20. Here are a couple of diagrams to show what is being proposed to save @Northern Light some work.
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TY for the labour saving.
Did a quick scan. Fine from a cycling perspective, but I don't like the street tree removal on the one side, while we retain a fairly useless median that makes crossing distances longer.
Trim or eliminate the median, add a row of street trees to buffer pedestrians and cyclists from traffic.
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slicecom
Active Member
The Esplanade bike lanes are now complete from Scott St to Market St. Still a gap missing between Market St and George St though.
