APTA-2048
Senior Member
I noticed similar results when they paved the Port Union bike lanes a couple weeks ago.
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TwoWheelPoli
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DSCToronto
Superstar
I wrote to the Mayor about the Esplanade mess where they installed new lines and dividers on a street much in need of repair. I got this response:
"Please see attached response from city staff on your inquiry:
“The installation of the quick-build cycle track on The Esplanade was never intended to be bundled with road resurfacing.
The quick-build cycle track was planned to be installed last year but was delayed due to coordination issues.
Road resurfacing on The Esplanade is now projected for 2026 or 2027 (which will be updated on InView) and will provide an opportunity to upgrade the cycle track to permanent materials.”
This is the first time I had heard (or realised) that the plan is for a raised track west of Lower Jarvis. It was always clear that the track east of Lower Jarvis would be raised and the raising would occur when the David Crombie Park project (finally) gets off the ground (now set for spring 2026 and the contactor has been selected) but in any documents I have seen it was implied the track between Yonge and Lower Jarvis would NOT be raised. I guess we will see. I pointed out to the Mayor that if City staff had bothered to keep the webpages updated, or even replied promptly yo emails, at least some of the grumbling might have been averted.
"Please see attached response from city staff on your inquiry:
“The installation of the quick-build cycle track on The Esplanade was never intended to be bundled with road resurfacing.
The quick-build cycle track was planned to be installed last year but was delayed due to coordination issues.
Road resurfacing on The Esplanade is now projected for 2026 or 2027 (which will be updated on InView) and will provide an opportunity to upgrade the cycle track to permanent materials.”
This is the first time I had heard (or realised) that the plan is for a raised track west of Lower Jarvis. It was always clear that the track east of Lower Jarvis would be raised and the raising would occur when the David Crombie Park project (finally) gets off the ground (now set for spring 2026 and the contactor has been selected) but in any documents I have seen it was implied the track between Yonge and Lower Jarvis would NOT be raised. I guess we will see. I pointed out to the Mayor that if City staff had bothered to keep the webpages updated, or even replied promptly yo emails, at least some of the grumbling might have been averted.
GameOnBrad
Active Member
I mentioned this very thing to a city official after struggling to find information on the Toronto.ca website and they chuckled when I told them I have been a web designer for 26 years with a heavy emphasis on UX and I felt stupid not being able to find such simple information. I said I should get a job there to fix all this. With a smile in her voice, she said "You should" with a long pause like she wanted to say more.
Anyway, they are horrible for upkeeping the website. Relevant information is not updated promptly. Example: The Cherry House Affordable Housing Lottery that is up on the Toronto website now. It ends on December 1st. Watch how long that information stays on that page past December 1st. Before that, the last lottery was up for at least 4 months past the end date.
Literally simple scripts can simply have that information vanish from a page on the end date or even setting a note in an email calendar to remove the info would also work.As a result, I'm never sure if I'm reading any information that is current on any of the city websites (Toronto.ca, CreateTO, etc).
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Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
Should CC: to the Ward Councillor as well.
TwinHuey
Active Member
After reading @APTA-2048's post I drove by this afternoon.Is Port Union done? May need some updated drone shots from @TwinHuey or something.
It appears cycle tracks on both sides are now paved but there is still a lot of roadwork ongoing with lane reductions etc.
I'll try to get some aerial shots once it's all finished up.
Northern Light
Superstar
The agenda for next week's General Government Ctte is out.
One item of interest, staff are seeking permission to move ahead with 2 expropriations in service of the Humber Gap Trail.
From the above:
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One item of interest, staff are seeking permission to move ahead with 2 expropriations in service of the Humber Gap Trail.
From the above:
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pawlyshyn
New Member
I thought it would never happen.
GameOnBrad
Active Member
Dundas Bridge over the Don River...
Northern Light
Superstar
Toronto's Chief Planner, Jason Thorne posted on Bsky recently with a number of updates on downtown cycling infra.
The first we've covered here extensively, but I'll share his photo just the same, Habord:
He also covered improvements to the Yonge/Queen's Quay intersection: (protected waiting area, bike box etc.)
And work on Wellesley: ( new raised cycle track/platforms at bus stops)
Checkout Jason's stuff on Bsky here:
bsky.app
The first we've covered here extensively, but I'll share his photo just the same, Habord:
He also covered improvements to the Yonge/Queen's Quay intersection: (protected waiting area, bike box etc.)
And work on Wellesley: ( new raised cycle track/platforms at bus stops)
Checkout Jason's stuff on Bsky here:
Jason Thorne (@jasonthorne.bsky.social)
Canadian Urbanist and Chief Planner for the City of Toronto 🇨🇦
bsky.app
Mihairokov
Senior Member
Very big news as biking this section during tourist season can be a headache between pedestrians and rideshares.
The Harbord enhancements look great. We need more of that all over the city.
GameOnBrad
Active Member
Meanwhile, on Shuter Street, there are these wishy-washy separators that are supposed to allow for garbage trucks and such to go over them. Problem is, these flaps(?) are rusting and busting all along the cycle lanes. Some are leaning, while others are fully busted and just laying flat now or broken off completely.
I wish they would just commit to something permanent and make it universal. There are too many streets with too many different "types" of bike lane implementations. It comes off very indecisive and reminds of the garbage cans across the city. What version are we on now? 5? 6?.
I wish they would just commit to something permanent and make it universal. There are too many streets with too many different "types" of bike lane implementations. It comes off very indecisive and reminds of the garbage cans across the city. What version are we on now? 5? 6?.
DSCToronto
Superstar
Part of the problem with City info is that it needs to be OKed by so many layers of 'communications" staff etc that even simple things do not get fixed for months. In the old days, the engineers were allowed to hold public meetings about plans, now they are chaperoned by communications staff - who seldom know anything but try to stop those who do from sharing it.I mentioned this very thing to a city official after struggling to find information on the Toronto.ca website and they chuckled when I told them I have been a web designer for 26 years with a heavy emphasis on UX and I felt stupid not being able to find such simple information. I said I should get a job there to fix all this. With a smile in her voice, she said "You should" with a long pause like she wanted to say more.
Anyway, they are horrible for upkeeping the website. Relevant information is not updated promptly. Example: The Cherry House Affordable Housing Lottery that is up on the Toronto website now. It ends on December 1st. Watch how long that information stays on that page past December 1st. Before that, the last lottery was up for at least 4 months past the end date.
As a result, I'm never sure if I'm reading any information that is current on any of the city websites (Toronto.ca, CreateTO, etc).
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DSCToronto
Superstar
I was out cycling on the martin Goodman today and can report...
![IMG_4241[1].JPG](//cdn.skyrisecities.com/forum/attachments/img_4241-1-jpg.688847/ "IMG_4241[1].JPG")
This is the very bumpy section and my ass is going to be VERY happy once it's done!
This is the very bumpy section and my ass is going to be VERY happy once it's done!