[Northern Light]

I have no idea if any elevators are working. If the elevator is woking for the terminal area along with new stairs to/from the street level, you may see it open by year end but what good is it when the orther elevators are not working.

Unless I am missing something, sitll need elvators to get to/from the platform and Q1 2026 would be the opening time frame for all elevators.

There are elevators in place to get you to the subway platform. There are not elevators in place for the permanent bus terminal, for obvious reasons.

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The elevators were nearly finished a week ago, but still had some parts left to install that were on-site, as such, final testing had not yet begun, not sure if they've advanced in the last week.

Last I heard, the target was before Christmas but these things change.

 

[Richard White]

Last I heard, the target was before Christmas but these things change.

You may be right on the money.

They removed the fencing.

 

[nfitz]

You may be right on the money.

They removed the fencing.

But ... but .... but ... where's the big white on black T?

 

[Richard White]

But ... but .... but ... where's the big white on black T?

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[Amare]

But ... but .... but ... where's the big white on black T?

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It's not a Metrolinx project, so we dont have to deal with that stupidity here.

 

[TossYourJacket]

But ... but .... but ... where's the big white on black T?

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You're gonna anger the "WE SHOULD USE METROLINX'S WAYFINDING STANDARD" crowd lol

 

[KhalilHeron]

You're gonna anger the "WE SHOULD USE METROLINX'S WAYFINDING STANDARD" crowd lol

I just want some damn consistency. the subway having different signage at different stations is going to confuse some poor tourists and suburbanites

 

[Amare]

I just want some damn consistency. the subway having different signage at different stations is going to confuse some poor tourists and suburbanites

Blame Metrolinx.

They decided to pay their consultants to come up with an idiotic concept that causes unnecessary complication.

The TTC is conducting their own wayfinding review, which will hopefully yield better results.

 

[TossYourJacket]

Blame Metrolinx.

They decided to pay their consultants to come up with an idiotic concept that causes unnecessary complication.

The TTC is conducting their own wayfinding review, which will hopefully yield better results.

I'm really hoping the TTC looks at Montreal for ideas. Things that are underground have black signs, things above ground have white signs. It's so intuitive.

Meanwhile Metrolinx don't believe in telling you what lines go through a station until you're inside the station which is insane. That 100% needs to be displayed on the outside of the station.

 

[nfitz]

I just want some damn consistency. the subway having different signage at different stations is going to confuse some poor tourists and suburbanites

Now it's going to confuse tourists and suburbanites?

Good job it's not near any major museums and tourist areas!

 

[EnviroTO]

I'm not sure the biggest win of the Metrolinx wayfinding standard is "the T". Even with "the T" their standard realizes that there is information that needs to be communicated at steps on the journey and others that do not. Like the entrance to Warden... where is the symbol for a metro (i.e. a vehicle on tracks)?

The Warden sign: Superhero logo, Warden, 2, and bus. For someone that doesn't know the TTC logo and doesn't know what route numbers are in the system this sign communicates "Warden bus terminal". A big T or M is likely to communicate transit or metro more than a superhero logo, but in the context of a sign that already communicates "Warden bus terminal" effectively the "T" adds nothing... A bus terminal is obviously transit. What is clearly missing is that this is also a metro/subway station.

 

[nfitz]

What is clearly missing is that this is also a metro/subway station.

The green 2 makes that pretty clear. And also tells you for which line.

Yeah, you need a bit of context or the city you are in. But that's true everywhere. Even a word like "Subway" will land you in trouble in some cities, as you'll just find yourself in a road underpass, or a sandwich store!

In Montreal you can follow a Metro sign and find yourself in a grocery store.

 

[Jolene]

You may be right on the money.

They removed the fencing.

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The "E" and "N" are soooooo close together!

 

[TossYourJacket]

The green 2 makes that pretty clear. And also tells you for which line.

Yeah, you need a bit of context or the city you are in. But that's true everywhere. Even a word like "Subway" will land you in trouble in some cities, as you'll just find yourself in a road underpass, or a sandwich store!

In Montreal you can follow a Metro sign and find yourself in a grocery store.

People on here are acting like a number or letter in a circle isn't a pretty standard subway line icon in North America (if not other places in the world). But I guess no one in NYC can find the subway as they don't have giant Ts everywhere.

Honestly, I'm not even opposed to having an icon for transit I just think stealing the MBTA logo and then applying it to both rapid and local transit was stupid. The aborted double chevron logo could have worked better for rapid transit and actually been somewhat unique to the GTA (it does kinda look like the SEPTA logo but that can be solved). Then use the T icon for local services.

Plus the TTC logo is more iconic locally and that becomes a boundary to overcome for any new logo, especially one that is literally the transit icon from another city that's only a few hours away.

Also, y'all wanna see bad signage? Go look at Seattle. When I was there it took me 3 days to even know I had been walking past a subway(underground LRT) station every day as the signage is so anonymous. At the very least, messy signage and all, you can usually tell when there is a subway station in Toronto. So like we can do better, but we also should remember it could be much worse lol.

 

[zang]

Now it's going to confuse tourists and suburbanites?

Good job it's not near any major museums and tourist areas!

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I miss the old St. George signage. I know it was a trial thing, but using symbols was a great idea; and I’m not sure why it didn’t fly.

I tried so hard to get one of the dragon shields that were on the signage across from the platforms. I was told they were destroyed.