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NorthernTracks said:
www.baytoday.ca

Ontario Northland reassures public amid VIA Rail winter disruptions

'Ontario Northland will conduct extensive testing on the Northlander equipment to ensure that all systems function correctly under operational conditions and meet safety, performance, and regulatory requirements'
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If I'm understanding from on this forum that the problem seems to be an airflow-snow ingestion problem impacting HEP/wiring/communications, if the ONR wants to do real time winter testing, they had best gets their skates on. Snowfall and swirling light snow conditions get pretty sporadic in late winter.
 
lenaitch said:
If I'm understanding from on this forum that the problem seems to be an airflow-snow ingestion problem impacting HEP/wiring/communications, if the ONR wants to do real time winter testing, they had best gets their skates on. Snowfall and swirling light snow conditions get pretty sporadic in late winter.
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One would think that any future updates to resolve that problem with the Via fleet will be done to the ONR fleet.
 
micheal_can said:
One would think that any future updates to resolve that problem with the Via fleet will be done to the ONR fleet.
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For sure (who pays for it being an aside). Observers are seeing what VIA is going through and rightfully questioning ONR. The actual cause(s) of the outages aren't really being widely shared, and ONR routing is a lot more isolated.
 
lenaitch said:
For sure (who pays for it being an aside). Observers are seeing what VIA is going through and rightfully questioning ONR. The actual cause(s) of the outages aren't really being widely shared, and ONR routing is a lot more isolated.
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And it is a lot more snow. And traveling in the overnight, when it tends to be colder.
 
micheal_can said:
Saw this and thought that it would be relevant here.

c.org

Have you seen this petition yet?

Connect VIA Rail’s Budd Car with the Northlander
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I'm surprised it doesn't ask for the service to go all the way to TBay or even Winnipeg.

It seems that AI doesn't realize that this would have nothing to do with the ONR, and that VIA gets to do exactly what the federal government allows it to do.

I'm honestly surprised that the Sudbury-White River service still exists. Other than back country tourists and outfitters, I wonder what the resident remote population is. according to Wiki, Biscotasing, one of the few non-road-served communities, has a population of 22.
 
lenaitch said:
I'm surprised it doesn't ask for the service to go all the way to TBay or even Winnipeg.
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That's cus I didn't write it.

lenaitch said:
It seems that AI doesn't realize that this would have nothing to do with the ONR, and that VIA gets to do exactly what the federal government allows it to do.
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AI didn't create it. It did not specify who was going to run that section. I am wondering though, would Via permit it to be extended if Ontario paid for it?

lenaitch said:
I'm honestly surprised that the Sudbury-White River service still exists. Other than back country tourists and outfitters, I wonder what the resident remote population is. according to Wiki, Biscotasing, one of the few non-road-served communities, has a population of 22.
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Uhm, it is road accessible. The roads from 144 are dirt,including the Sultan Industrial Road. I am not sure if any communities along it are not road accessible. The things that are not road accessible are the various camps and cottages.

The existing schedule could even work.
The existing train leaves at 9am and arrives at 5:50pm. The Northlander is projected to arrive in North Bay heading north at 5:55am and 11:30pm southbound. That is 4 hours to get to Sudbury and 6 hours to get to North Bay. With how bad the OVR's condition is, that travel time is achievable with no track work.
 
micheal_can said:
AI didn't create it. It did not specify who was going to run that section. I am wondering though, would Via permit it to be extended if Ontario paid for it?
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It says right in the document that the proponent/author had AI generate the text and they decided to go with it.

We don't have that funding model like Amtrak has with states in the US. I suspect it might be a case of be careful what you ask for. If the federal government opened the door to provinces funding in-province service, they might well walk away from a number of them.

micheal_can said:
Uhm, it is road accessible. The roads from 144 are dirt,including the Sultan Industrial Road. I am not sure if any communities along it are not road accessible. The things that are not road accessible are the various camps and cottages.
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Seen. I didn't realize Bisco was on a year-round public access road.
 
lenaitch said:
It says right in the document that the proponent/author had AI generate the text and they decided to go with it.

We don't have that funding model like Amtrak has with states in the US. I suspect it might be a case of be careful what you ask for. If the federal government opened the door to provinces funding in-province service, they might well walk away from a number of them.


Seen. I didn't realize Bisco was on a year-round public access road.
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We both got things wrong.

Should the province just take it over then?That may prevent the Federal Government walk away from rail services.
 
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