[DSCToronto]

Chow is just putting a show on for the media in an election year she knows she won't win.

Expropriation is the legal, sovereign act of a government or public authority seizing private property for public use without the owner's consent, typically requiring fair compensation. It is used for infrastructure projects like roads or schools,

The Province probably CAN do this (though the Supreme Court reasoning about the size of Council leaves some legal doubts) but if Ford and his cronies realise it is unpopular both inside and outside Toronto he will give up. His popularity is already slipping as people see him proposing mad schemes like the 401 tunnel and buying jet planes that can't actually land where he says he wanted to. It is worth noting that the motion at Council had overwhelming support, I think the final vote was unanimous.

 

[PL1]

The city disputes the Province taking over our role in the Tripartite Agreement which has kilometres of legal ink going back decades and implications for the city and its residents.
The city disputes the airport extension itself and its destruction of hundreds of billions in damage to land value along the route, including investments over the last 20 years in Waterfront Toronto.

Take your pick, this gets locked in litigation for years. Doug Ford backs off after the public turns against him: Torontonians insulted by him attacking our city, Ontarians outside Toronto pissed off that Doug only focuses on Toronto. Doug Ford isn't a lame duck (or he doesn't think he is). If this drags on close enough to the next election, he's going to feel the heat.

My cynical view? Ford passes the "Toronto Exists As The Personal Fiefdom Of The Premier Act" (TEAT-PFOT-PA) where the premier becomes the Mayor, all Councilors, and runs the school boards at the same time.

 

[DrivingAlong]

The Province probably CAN do this (though the Supreme Court reasoning about the size of Council leaves some legal doubts) but if Ford and his cronies realise it is unpopular both inside and outside Toronto he will give up. His popularity is already slipping as people see him proposing mad schemes like the 401 tunnel and buying jet planes that can't actually land where he says he wanted to. It is worth noting that the motion at Council had overwhelming support, I think the final vote was unanimous.

Council size and land rights are two very different things. They want one-third of the park, so far, not the entire park.
Who/what owned that land before the park was installed in 1986?

 

[DSCToronto]

Council size and land rights are two very different things. They want one-third of the park, so far, not the entire park.
Who/what owned that land before the park was installed in 1986?

Here it is in the 1960w - a baseball diamond.

 

[ssiguy2]

Chow is probably grinning like the Cheshire cat right now, it's an election year and she can position herself as Captain Toronto standing up to the bully. That said, I do think she is genuinely offended by this.

If Toronto wants to stop this powerplay from Ford, the first thing the City should do is get everyother municipality to stand with it. This particular case is happening in Toronto but it has provincial impacts. If Ford can get away with it here, he can get away with it in Windsor, Welland, or Wiarton. This is a provincial issue that crosses all demographic and politically leanings.........rich/poor, urban/rural, left/right. Regardless of how one votes or where they live, nobody wants to lose their local parks. Taking on spoiled Toronto may play well in other parts of the province but if he has to take on every area including areas of his political backbone, he would back down. The recent fiasco of his airplane exemplifies that. There are somethings that universally piss people off and this is one them

 

[picard102]

Chow is probably grinning like the Cheshire cat right now, it's an election year and she can position herself as Captain Toronto standing up to the bully. That said, I do think she is genuinely offended by this.

I think she'd be opening up herself to attacks on that front if that's what she wants to campaign on. She's only very gently pushed back on Ford, and had mostly cooperated with him.

 

[smuncky]

Council size and land rights are two very different things. They want one-third of the park, so far, not the entire park.
Who/what owned that land before the park was installed in 1986?

to your point about them not wanting the entire park:

https://www.thetrillium.ca/news/municipalities-transit-and-infrastructure/map-these-are-the-plots-of-land-doug-ford-wants-for-billy-bishop-expansion-12193716

 

[adma]

Here it is in the 1960w - a baseball diamond.

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Maple Leaf Stadium, demolished 1968. I believe the City owned the whole parcel thereafter (and there was a somewhat legendary "adventure playground" at the NE edge in the 70s/80s), though there wasn't any real planning put into said parcel until the 80s, when housing was installed in the N portion and the balance became the park...

 

[Full Metal Junkie]

My cynical view? Ford passes the "Toronto Exists As The Personal Fiefdom Of The Premier Act" (TEAT-PFOT-PA) where the premier becomes the Mayor, all Councilors, and runs the school boards at the same time.

Never let a good acronym go to waste. The act should be called Feudal Ontario Reorganization: Decreeing Imperial Sovereignty And Toronto's Unconditional Ruling Dictate (FORD-IS-A-TURD)

 

[innsertnamehere]

Here it is in the 1960w - a baseball diamond.

View attachment 731943

Notice hand drawn mapping of the Gardiner and (planned at the time) 400 extension to the Gardiner with the interchange between the two roads..

 

[innsertnamehere]

Is there any reasonable chance the city has a legal foot to stand on here?
As long as the province compensates them, I don't see how the province doesn't have the power to just expropriate what they want.

Legally they wouldn't even have to pay them. The province is doing them a favour by paying them - Cities are entirely within provincial control so the Province could just pass legislation saying "this is ours now" and the City basically couldn't do anything.