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Greenestone is a private facility. Come on guys, are we really surprised that staff and security are saying he's not there? What are they supposed to say? "Rob Ford? Oh, yes, he's here. You want the phone number to his room? Come in, let me escort you there."
 
dforthandbview said:
Greenestone is a private facility. Come on guys, are we really surprised that staff and security are saying he's not there? What are they supposed to say? "Rob Ford? Oh, yes, he's here. You want the phone number to his room? Come in, let me escort you there."
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Pros would say: Yes, we're familiar with the major news stories about Rob Ford, and we wish him well with his recovery; but no, we'll not say anything about whether he or anybody else is a patient.

Clowns would say: I've never heard of Rob Ford.
 
bobolink said:
I don't know that it is DF's job to inform residents of the area. Certainly the centre had a responsibility to inform and consult with community members and to ease the path for the opening of the centre.

Of course now that DF has gotten involved, it will be very difficult to ease community concerns and create a more welcoming atmosphere for the facility.
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Councillors usually put out a monthly newsletter (or more often for some councillors) sharing details of what is going on in their ward. I would certainly expect DoFo to have mentioned it in an update, especially if he had met with them a few times before March. I don't think he puts out any newsletter.

But yes, it is the centre's responsibility to inform also.
 
I lived next door to a group home for psych patients who mostly didn't need to be in hospital but were too ill for independent living. It was sometimes a little disconcerting to see them because they were so obviously unwell. Ambulances showed up there fairly regularly.

It was a bit of a rough neighbourhood. There were people in the area that made me nervous (there was a biker bar a block and a half away), but they did not include the people in the group home. residents/patients mostly looked like they were medicated within an inch of their lives and I never saw them as a threat/danger.
 
bistmath said:
Obviously I can't speak to that specific case, but no. Well probably not. Griffen treats some very serious cases. Their residents may be violent towards themselves or others. They may be so intensely introverted that they are unwilling or unable to communicate with strangers. Thing is ASD is a spectrum and thus affects each individual differently. I'm simplifying an unbelievably complex spectrum -one with which I know first hand.
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I forgot to ask in my first reply.

From what I understand, these individuals are permitted out alone. Do you think that is safe? Some of the residents seemed concerned about that.

"Residents say the people at the home have often been in the street unsupervised."

"Residents on Jeffcoat allege that only those living closest to the home received any notice it would begin operation. They say what communication they did get didn’t paint the full picture."
 
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bobolink said:
I lived next door to a group home for psych patients who mostly didn't need to be in hospital but were too ill for independent living. It was sometimes a little disconcerting to see them because they were so obviously unwell. Ambulances showed up there fairly regularly.

It was a bit of a rough neighbourhood. There were people in the area that made me nervous (there was a biker bar a block and a half away), but they did not include the people in the group home. residents/patients mostly looked like they were medicated within an inch of their lives and I never saw them as a threat/danger.
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I just moved from a street in Parkdale that had old mansions made into apartments, old mansions made into group homes, old mansions made into rooming houses and a couple of apartment buildings. The rooming house had at least 40-50 people in it, all stuffed in single rooms. One lady who read tarot cards got knifed to death there, I guess because the person didn't like their reading. People would scream up and down the block at least once a week during the summer months.

The cops came a couple of times a year.

But none of that ever made me feel unsafe. Feeling safe is as much a state of being as it is an environment. I could understand the neighbours' concerns if they actually were in danger. But it's not like these kids have guns in this group home.
 
CalgarianExOntarian said:
Good point. If RoFo's there, or if he's not and this is the 10th time the manager has been asked about RoFo, I imagine it's tough to resist the urge to vent.

But if you're running this sort of place, you should have your shit together.
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I am more surprised that there were a couple of guys with fire crackers, just standing around outside.
 
newearthling said:
I just moved from a street in Parkdale that had old mansions made into apartments, old mansions made into group homes, old mansions made into rooming houses and a couple of apartment buildings. The rooming house had at least 40-50 people in it, all stuffed in single rooms. One lady who read tarot cards got knifed to death there, I guess because the person didn't like their reading. People would scream up and down the block at least once a week during the summer months.

The cops came a couple of times a year.

But none of that ever made me feel unsafe. Feeling safe is as much a state of being as it is an environment. I could understand the neighbours' concerns if they actually were in danger. But it's not like these kids have guns in this group home.
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As a fellow Parkdalian, I know exactly what you're talking about. No matter the reputation of the community, or the news stories that flow out, I have NEVER felt unsafe here (and yes Doug there are group homes here, ones for adults who have recently been released from prison no less). One time I was walking home from a friend's house on Jameson at like 3/4 am, turned onto Queen and came upon a group of people fighting over crack (they were yelling, there was no doubt what they were arguing about). As I passed by, they politely moved to the side of the sidewalk and kept on arguing, and I walked on by with no issues, turned the corner to walk down Lansdowne and encountered a group of women having a catfight. As I approached they stopped fighting, moved to the side of the sidewalk, and waited for me to pass before continuing their catfight. (eta: this was quite a few years ago, I have since made the decision to raise my kids here).
Even with that kind of stuff, I never felt unsafe walking around the neighbourhood. If these people are that scared because of teens from a grouphome, I'ld have to say the problem is them, not the kids.
 
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Regarding group homes in Parkdale.

My memories of the area are not recent, but there were no where near enough supervised group homes.

It was mostly unofficial boarding homes, rooming houses, or bachelor apartments created in former single-family dwellings in South Parkdale for discharged mental patients.

I am sure things have improved since then.
 
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