[DiscoStu]

Assuming the materials aren't total shit (and that may be a big assumption), I think I actually prefer this new one over the grey bunker. If done well, this one has a chance to atleast be non-offensively decent...potentially even elegant?

 

[CalgaryTiger]

I see this as more of an Eau Claire Place I than the Eau Claire Place II people think it is.

 

[Albertasaurus]

If done well, it could end up being a cool building in a retro-'60s/70s sort of way.

 

[Chowda7]

Calgary awards sole-source contract for feeder main replacement, work to begin this week - Calgary | Globalnews.ca

Work on the first phase of the Bearspaw feeder main replacement was originally set to begin this spring, but Calgary officials say they want the pipe complete by next winter.

globalnews.ca

 

[Nimbus]

Ship and Anchor owner worried proposed development could ‘contribute to our demise’

Ship and Anchor owner worried proposed development could 'contribute to our demise' - LiveWire Calgary

The owner of the iconic Ship and Anchor Pub on 17 Avenue SW fears a proposed development could mean the demise of their Beltline establishment. Calgary city councillors ultimately voted in favour of a policy amendment and land-use redesignation for a parcel of land that includes the Ship and...

livewirecalgary.com

 

[CalgaryTiger]

Ship and Anchor owner worried proposed development could ‘contribute to our demise’

Ship and Anchor owner worried proposed development could 'contribute to our demise' - LiveWire Calgary

The owner of the iconic Ship and Anchor Pub on 17 Avenue SW fears a proposed development could mean the demise of their Beltline establishment. Calgary city councillors ultimately voted in favour of a policy amendment and land-use redesignation for a parcel of land that includes the Ship and...

livewirecalgary.com

Someone needs to show the Ship what happened when Marda Loop businesses said loudly and often, "don't come here." Their worry is about residents complaining about the live music. Isn't that on the residents? If the Ship isn't violating bylaws, that's just too bad if you rent an apartment and don't realize your downstairs neighbour is a busy live music venue.

 

[CalgaryTiger]

So... ATCO is up to something: https://dmap.calgary.ca/?p=LOC2025-0233

Address

• 2922 PEACEKEEPERS WY SW
• 99 PEACEKEEPERS DR SW

Community
GARRISON GREEN
LINCOLN PARK
Existing land use district
Direct Control (1P2007) (DC)
Industrial - Business (I-B f0.63)
Proposed land use district
Mixed Use - General District (MU-1f4h24)
Mixed Use - General District (MU-1f7h95)
Multi-Residential - Contextual Grade-Oriented District (M-CG)
Special Purpose - Recreation District (S-R)
Description
This combined outline plan and redesignation application proposes an outline plan for the future subdivision and development of 9.34 hectares of land 2922 Peacekeepers Way SW and 99 Peacekeepers Drive SW. The application provides for:

• an anticipated 109 dwelling units within 2 to 3 storey residential buildings (M-CG);
• approximately 706 dwelling units within mixed use buildings with a maximum height of 24 metres and a maximum floor area ratio of 4.0 (MU-1);
• approximately 1,018 dwelling units within mixed use buildings with a maximum height of 95 metres and maximum floor area ratio of 7.0 (MU-1);
• approximately 1.34 hectares of land intended for commercial development (MU-1);
• approximately 0.28 hectares for a linear park (S-R);
• the location and size of future public roads and public pathways; and
• the location of major utilities and services.

There's also... https://dmap.calgary.ca/?p=LOC2025-0223

Description
This outline plan application proposes an outline for the future subdivision and development of 4.97 hectares of land in the community of Lincoln Park.

Curious where they plan to relocate their manufacturing facility... Would be good to have this underutilized part of the city filled in.

 

[trtcttc]

Someone needs to show the Ship what happened when Marda Loop businesses said loudly and often, "don't come here." Their worry is about residents complaining about the live music. Isn't that on the residents? If the Ship isn't violating bylaws, that's just too bad if you rent an apartment and don't realize your downstairs neighbour is a busy live music venue.

Or they currently violate bylaws, and they don't want to have the people above complain, forcing them to operate within the rules.

 

[Mountain Man]

I think the Ship has very valid concerns, I love that place and would be sad if it had to close or change significantly. We need live music venues in this city and the Ship is basically the heart of 17th. I also wouldn't have a lot of faith in Strategic, they don't seem the most trustworthy of developers.

 

[CBBarnett]

Someone needs to show the Ship what happened when Marda Loop businesses said loudly and often, "don't come here." Their worry is about residents complaining about the live music. Isn't that on the residents? If the Ship isn't violating bylaws, that's just too bad if you rent an apartment and don't realize your downstairs neighbour is a busy live music venue.

I think the Ship has very valid concerns, I love that place and would be sad if it had to close or change significantly. We need live music venues in this city and the Ship is basically the heart of 17th. I also wouldn't have a lot of faith in Strategic, they don't seem the most trustworthy of developers.

I think a couple things are true, the Ship will probably be fine (in the end), but they are fair to be concerned and shouldn't be assumed to know everything about how the development process works, and the planning process isn't the only tool here that is being confused together.

For example, I don't see how the developer can construct the scale and size of building they are envisioning around and above the ship without covering the patio for safety, which materially would impact how that business works and functions for a year or two. It's got to be the highest revenue patio in the city. That's not really something to figure out at this stage but is a legitimate question that impacts the business and customers, especially concerning if the developers are already demonstrating unclear and spotty communication with the business.

Similarly how noise complaints work within buildings - Ship has loud music until 2 or 3 am. Will this still be allowed in a mixed-use building? I assume so, but what does the rules say? How will it actually work? Without an answer, the Ship has a legitimate question.

Every concern can be mitigated, but it really takes effort from the developer and some acknowledgement of how important a tenant the Ship is. That's the concerning part if the developer can't already demonstrate that in the earliest of stages of development.

 

[badc0ffee]

I love the Ship, have been going there almost 30 years, love punk rock bingo, love the patio...

But seeing a live show there has always kind of sucked unless it's, like, a weekend afternoon chill thing with a small crowd. So, I don't personally feel like it's a mainstay of the live music scene here.

Edit: To be clear, I want them to be able to stay open and make some noise.

 

[lemongrab]

This outline plan application proposes an outline for the future subdivision and development of 4.97 hectares of land in the community of Lincoln Park.

Curious where they plan to relocate their manufacturing facility... Would be good to have this underutilized part of the city filled in.

Maybe they'll develop it themselves with their modular stuff...seems like a good location for small+simple units:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/attainable-homes-modular-1.7600079

 

[whatchyyc]

New LOC across from Chinook Centre, same proposed zone as the parcel to the south that was recently approved (MU-1f8h110)

DMap

DMap

dmap.calgary.ca

 

[CT_]

New LOC across from Chinook Centre, same proposed zone as the parcel to the south that was recently approved (MU-1f8h110)

DMap

DMap

dmap.calgary.ca

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Cadillac Fairview is on a roll!

I wonder if one of these sites could be the coveted 'Allies and Morrison' proposal we've been hearing so much about... Maybe, even, a redevelopment of the mall proper...

 

[Surrealplaces]

New LOC across from Chinook Centre, same proposed zone as the parcel to the south that was recently approved (MU-1f8h110)

DMap

DMap

dmap.calgary.ca

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I usually don't get too excited about LOCs but this is exciting. All the talk about Chinook LRT being surrounded by high-rises, just might happen. Throw in a couple of 35-50 storey towers, and I won't ask for another Christmas gift ever.