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Steve X said:
That is meaningless. They need grade separation in a few key spots. Midland should be underground. Brimley/Danforth triangle, Eglinton/Kingston and Lawrence/Morningside intersections should be grade separated. It's probably better to elevated through UTSC too. At that point they should build a new crossing over the 401 just east of Morningside to avoid the lights at the ramp. They can also go under Guildwood GO station to bring the stop closer to the GO station entrance to improve the connection. This would cut 8 to 10 minutes compared to what they did on Finch with lights only at minor street crossing. This also allows them to place more aggressive TSP for minor streets too.

What they do on Sheppard is another story. I think ridership will be much lower. The Finch West concept would be cheaper than grade separation for here. I also think the 131 Nugget bus would be better and probably faster to serve the local neighbourhood at Malvern than this line. The old SRT extension alignment via Centennial College is a much better and faster route to Malvern Town Centre connecting to Line 2 at STC. This Sheppard alignment just looks good on the map. Congestion isn't bad in this area. The 85/985B buses would zoom faster on Sheppard. A curbside bus lane would be cheaper and more efficient.
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I tried to draw an elevation of this EELRT line from Kennedy Station (at Eglinton) to Kennedy (and Sheppard).
It really should go to wonderland.
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Westey said:
I tried to draw an elevation of this EELRT line from Kennedy Station (at Eglinton) to Kennedy (and Sheppard).
It really should go to wonderland.
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Grade separation just needs to be a shallow bridge structure allowing the line you be one floor lower. You can see how Calgary did it and it’s not a roller coaster.
 
It was previously planned to grade separate with an underground segment spanning Lawrence to Morningside, with an underground station. It had a substantial cost and was undone.

If effective signal priority just doesn't work then sure this should be considered, but the substantial cost that comes with grade separations will make the construction of this line less likely.
 
Olivia chow has posted a public letter about this project.



I'm aware that many here are NOT a fan of this project but it would seem that with funding of the Waterfront line, EELRT is next in line and more likely to recieve funding? Perhaps through the new federal infrastructure fund.

Anyone with insider knowledge willing to share what they're hearing from the feds or the prov. About this project ?
 
reminder due to MX incompetence this will be a completely separate line from the crosstown. Part of the reason why the name change makes sense. but still maybe we find a better vehicle to use for this.
Maybe something like Seattles light rail vehicles.
 
generalcanada said:
Maybe something like Seattles light rail vehicles.
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I'm not sure how that's an upgrade, given they are even shorter than the Flexity cars, aren't articulated, and have stair cases between sections of the cars - which results in the same thing you see on buses - too much crowding in the lower section, with less standing at the top. The doors are all too narrow, and there's no door near the ends of the car (which is part of the standing problem).
 
Thaboss said:
Olivia chow has posted a public letter about this project.



I'm aware that many here are NOT a fan of this project but it would seem that with funding of the Waterfront line, EELRT is next in line and more likely to recieve funding? Perhaps through the new federal infrastructure fund.

Anyone with insider knowledge willing to share what they're hearing from the feds or the prov. About this project ?
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I have a great deal of behind the scenes info.............but not all of it............and not always in real time...

With that proviso, I am unaware, at this time of any senior government funds coming to this project any time soon.

There are two major funding commitments likely in the next few months............( * grain of salt, I thought the WELRT commitment would be public in 2023).

To the extent that the Mayor is serious about adding grade separations, the full project here would be close to Crosstown budget levels........(start at 12B). (full separation could be 20B)

While possible, its unlikely anything that large has been moving under my radar. So I'll write it off as pre-election posturing for the Scarborough vote for now.

I think there is a desire to deliver something in this corridor, I remain of the view its more likely to be scaled down (BRT) and probably be less lengthy, than built as a partial/full separation route.

But governments surprise me now and again......so you never know.
 
Northern Light said:
I think there is a desire to deliver something in this corridor, I remain of the view its more likely to be scaled down (BRT) and probably be less lengthy, than built as a partial/full separation route.
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Something that stands out is that the Mayor Chow re-brand to "Scarborough East Rapid Transit" has dropped "LRT" from the name. As I've said elsewhere, a comprehensive bus priority program (whether in-median BRT or curbside RapidTO-style lanes + TSP), could spread the love to deliver a lot of benefit to the very distributed travel demand patterns across this part of Scarborough. However the priority needs to be faster and more reliable connections between Kennedy, STC, and UTSC.
 
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