innsertnamehere
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It doesn't make sense, all the rail corridor space in the east is needed for GO operations. It's only wide enough for 4 tracks and there are 3 already there..
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Yup. Square One is where it is because of the highway though. STC is even worse IMO, because the 401 runs perpendicular to the GO line, so you still could have had the same degree of 401 access if it was situated straddling the rail corridor. At least at Hurontario the GO line and 403 are virtually parallel, so any closer to one is further from the other. Not to excuse the 1960s era planning behind it though.
But yes, still both less than ideal. At least the GTHA got it right when they planned Richmond Hill Centre, and now the future Downtown Markham and Vaughan Centre (I refuse to insert the word "Metropolitan" into that, haha).
The myth that square one is where it is because the highway is there has to die. Square One opened its first phase in 1973.....the current route of the 403 is dramatically different than the routes talked about in the 50's and 60's and was only created in the late 70's. if anything, the location of the highway was influenced by the location of the mall.
This Smarttrack proposal would have much more credibility with me if it was presented as an alternative to the Scarborogh subway.
For a relatively low cost, a branch could be built from the main Smarttrack line to STC via the current alignment. Or a branch along the CP line to Malvern, either of which would do a better job than the Scarborough subway. Maybe it would add a few hundred million in incremental costs, but it would save billions.
This Smarttrack proposal would have much more credibility with me if it was presented as an alternative to the Scarborogh subway.
For a relatively low cost, a branch could be built from the main Smarttrack line to STC via the current alignment. Or a branch along the CP line to Malvern, either of which would do a better job than the Scarborough subway. Maybe it would add a few hundred million in incremental costs, but it would save billions.
Bang on. If you look at the map I posted in the fantasy thread, there are 3 GO REX routes running north from Kennedy: One to Lincolnville, one to Unionville, and one branching off at the current SRT branch-off, running along the SRT ROW until Malvern, and then using the CP ROW to Seaton. The cost of doing the spur to Malvern would be less than the Scarborough Subway, and do a hell of a lot more for Scarborough.
And no offense to Markham/Unionville, but Tory is running for mayor of Toronto, No?
John Tory transit plan
Mayoral candidate John Tory has released his plan to get you moving in the city and beyond with his "One Toronto Transit Plan."
Tory is hopping onto a plan already announced by the province that would bring in Regional Express Rail, an all-day, two-way surface subway service that would run on existing GO track lines with new higher-speed vehicles.
The first project would be the SmartTrack line which would run from the Airport Corporate Centre near Matheson Boulevard, down to Union Station and back up to Markham in the East.
The SmartTrack line is 53 kilometres long and would include 22 new stops and 4 interchanges with the TTC Rapid Transit Network.
Tory is promising the new line within 7 years and would include full fare coordination with the TTC system.
The total cost of the SmartTrack line is $8-billion.
The city's one-third share of the cost would be financed using Tax Increment Financing, which would dedicate a portion of increased tax revenue from development along the line to fund construction.
John Tory reiterated his promise to immediately start building a Scarborough Subway extension as well as his pledge to provide new express bus services for areas like Don Mills Road, Liberty Village, and Dufferin Street.
Tory says the new SmartTrack line would generate relief by reducing passenger use of the Yonge-University-Spadina line as well as reducing car congestion in the areas serviced by the new line. - See more at: http://www.newstalk1010.com/news/20...n-for-transit-in-toronto#sthash.YmjqTwtv.dpuf
Which is exactly why he shouldn't be bringing it up. Mayor of Toronto has zero authority over most of that corridor and no where close to the resources to buy it/take it over.
It's nice that he wants to propose things to Metrolinx (or the MTO) but it's not really anything he could actually bring to fruition. He still seems to want to be Premier for the province but forgets he's running for Mayor of Toronto; constantly brings things up that are well outside of the abilities of the Mayor.
I put it in the same category as Miller promising to ask the Federal Government for money. Technically he did ask; it made zero difference.
A generic promise to not get in the way and work on a integrated fare solution would be much better.
The Bloor/Danforth subway extension is far better for Scarborough, especially if it can be extended up to Finch. Even if the SELRT is not built, you will have Sheppard and Finch buses (on both sides of McCowan) flowing into the line, relieving congestion.
The Tory plan for what essentially looks like a GO-electrification project appears completely different than what was imagined as a DRL
- The line passes through Union...not King or Queen
- The line does not serve King West as the DRL would have, nor the area around Roncesvalles
- There's no connection south between the Bloor line East and Queen East, nor a conceived extension between Bloor and Eglinton
- Will real integration between GO and TTC ever happen?
There's already lots of Lakeshore trains. The DRL was going to serve the region between Lakeshore and Bloor, and that area will still be under-served if this becomes "the solution." And no offense to Markham/Unionville, but Tory is running for mayor of Toronto, No?
But not impossible ... given the Metrolinx Big Move project to run express rail into MCC.
Presumably.I'm not aware of this project and can't seem to find any info. How would they get the trains into MCC, tunnel?
The Scarborough Subway is still there on top of it, which means that Scarborough would be getting 2 transit lines less than 2km apart.