lenaitch
Senior Member
I saw this on another forum. Just throwing it on the table:
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ShonTron
Moderator
That was a joke that was taken far too seriously. Ford is much better off getting another lackey in the mayor's office than resigning as premier to run in an election he's likely to lose.
Amare
Senior Member
Doug Ford is already in a sense effectively the mayor of Toronto, it doesnt hold water.
Fresco
Active Member
Less tickets......LOL.
I've gotten 2 of these things already, and they were for going 11 and 12 clicks over the limit respectively.
Doing 42 kmh in a 30 zone shouldnt be a ticket. Its a total money grab.
Thats why I always called John Tory "Greedface" because thats what he is.
I'm glad he got caught cheating on his wife, and I hope she takes him to the cleaners.
They got married in 1978, I think that was just before prenups were made legal in Canada
Coolibop
Active Member
40 percent above the limit shouldn't be a ticket? I'd like to see the traffic engineers or those who suggested the speeds comment.
The following is bot meant to be snarky but genuine curiosity... I always see comment about traffic (speeding) infractions as 'money grabs' but don't see any evidence to support. Could it be a lack of understand why speeds are set particular ways?
To keep on topic, are there any candidates that don't agree with the cameras?
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Northern Light
Superstar
Alejandra Bravo is apparently mulling taking a shot at the Mayoralty.
There's a good deal to be said for her merits as a candidate but having just arrived at City Council w/the last election, and after having done so following countless unsuccessful attempts to win office previously, it seems awfully ambitious.
There's a good deal to be said for her merits as a candidate but having just arrived at City Council w/the last election, and after having done so following countless unsuccessful attempts to win office previously, it seems awfully ambitious.
Fresco
Active Member
Going 40 in a residential zone is slow enough. Of course its a money grab.
The City makes tens of millions of dollars on speed cams annually.
As I said before in another thread, install speed bumps in school zones or high pedestrian accident streets.
I have no problem with speed bumps. Thats what they do in Oakville.
I dont know yet which candidate is against speed cameras (if any), but I'm going to send some emails and find out
Dr. Snoot
Active Member
Why don't you just.... not speed.
T3G
Senior Member
What is the point of having traffic laws, then, if any driver can just decide that something shouldn't be a ticket?
Here's a thought: have you tried driving at the speed limit? It's real simple, and you get to hold on to your cash. Win win.
Northern Light
Superstar
There is a compelling argument that it is not slow enough.
From: https://roadsafety.transport.nsw.gov.au/stayingsafe/pedestrians/speedandfatalities/index.html
This is not accurate.
The City collect a total of 34M (gross) in revenue from the program's inception in July '20 to Oct '22.
That would equal 14.57M gross per annum.
However, that's before deducting program cost:
Cameras: 2.5M per annum + charge backs from Transportation, and Legal.
At most, they are netting under 12M per year, on a 16B annual budget.
From: https://globalnews.ca/news/9321380/toronto-speed-camera-program-revenue/
Fresco
Active Member
Its not that simple.
Going from 30 kmh to 40 is only a matter of slightly pressing the gas pedal too hard.
You barely notice in todays modern cars.
I do drive relatively slow. I just think going 41 in a 30 zone shouldnt be a ticket.
I also think if the government is that concerned with saving lives why dont they install speed bumps in school zones?!
Oakville has them. They work great because if you dont slow down you will wreck your car
Fresco
Active Member
That was during the pandemic. A lot less cars on the road.
I would like to see the numbers for 2023 at years end
Mr.Tang
Active Member
Trying to pull this back on topic to say that Mikey Ford (as suggested by CP24; I know...) would be a massive embarrassment (international headlines about Crack smoking relations return) and more meaningfully a sign that our democracy is deeply flawed when this is the best, brightest and most capable candidate a city like Toronto can suggest.
nfitz
Superstar
Even though it leads to over 3 times the deaths?
I think anyone who thinks that it's okay to go 40 in a 30 zone should have their licence permanently removed - at least on residential streets, where two cars have to be careful while passing each other.
If there are any 30-km/hr zones on arteries built for 80 ... then I can see that might be problematic - though the lowest I've seen is 40 km/hr.
concrete_and_light
Active Member
Can we get a separate thread for specifics of the discussion of speed cameras and speed tickets and associated topics? This is a major election for Toronto with lots to talk about and half the posts in this thread it seems are diversions on speeds cameras and road speed (important topics, but maybe not for this thread unless discussing how it interacts with the election or candidates' platforms).