rbt
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I didn't say it was a win: I said significant change.
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I didn't say it was a win: I said significant change.
Northern Light
Superstar
I don't want to veer things here too off-topic, but to chime in again, I have to say, privately, many law makers (at whatever level of government) often have similar takes on many issues (privately). By no means all the same, but not nearly
so different. as they might have you believe.
This should really surprise no one as the majority are upper-middle-income, university educated, own single-family homes, have children (young or adult), and most have never experienced life on social assistance, lived in public housing, or had to deal with a disability etc.
Given similarity of background and lived experience, you'd expect similar views.
I get the need to sometimes draw a line of contrast between yourself and another, be that fully real, or a modest exaggeration, in the service of obtaining or retaining power. But I do wish we would see more open consensus politics.
You still see this sometimes in Quebec, where there was multi-party consensus on Medically-assisted dying, on abolishing religious school boards and a few other issues, while retaining differentiation on many other points.
We ought to be able, at every level of government to agree on some key goals/outcomes and some of the paths of achieving them. At least now and again.
so different. as they might have you believe.
This should really surprise no one as the majority are upper-middle-income, university educated, own single-family homes, have children (young or adult), and most have never experienced life on social assistance, lived in public housing, or had to deal with a disability etc.
Given similarity of background and lived experience, you'd expect similar views.
I get the need to sometimes draw a line of contrast between yourself and another, be that fully real, or a modest exaggeration, in the service of obtaining or retaining power. But I do wish we would see more open consensus politics.
You still see this sometimes in Quebec, where there was multi-party consensus on Medically-assisted dying, on abolishing religious school boards and a few other issues, while retaining differentiation on many other points.
We ought to be able, at every level of government to agree on some key goals/outcomes and some of the paths of achieving them. At least now and again.
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SashaLemon
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TonyV
Senior Member
Just a thought for all you peeps to ponder. Do any of you think it’s time for a whole new generation at city hall? Everyone seems so stuck on old ideas that no longer work. I’m pretty disillusioned with the legacy hangers-on in power, and entrenched bureaucracies - silos, as someone wisely called them, earlier up.
There’s been a massive change in the demographics of Toronto and I’d love to find out what is on the minds of young people with regard to our future.
There’s been a massive change in the demographics of Toronto and I’d love to find out what is on the minds of young people with regard to our future.
Northern Light
Superstar
There was a decent-sized shift last time out.
Minnan-Wong, Grimes, Fillion all departed.
Several younger faces, more women and minorities; its just an unfinished project.
Looks like Crawford is headed to the exit, that's a great opportunity for further change; a new Mayor is incoming as well.
Still in need of a path to the exit: Cllrs - Bradford, Fletcher, Perks, Holyday, Robinson, Peruzza, Thomson and Burnside
There's a bit more dead weight, but that list being swapped out could do wonders, provided we got good replacements.
In that group, Bradford is actually young, but he seemed to run out of good ideas immediately after the Danforth Bike lane, so his second term should be his last (which he ran on doing anyway, but I digress)
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Until we have term limits we'll continue to see the old guard linger.
Looked at in 2019 and 2020.
Politicians to look at term limits for city councillors
Has the time come to impose term limits for those elected to Toronto council?
torontosun.com
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Does Toronto need to set term limits for city councillors?
Coun. Brad Bradford says Toronto needs term limits to get more diverse voices on council.
christiesplits
Senior Member
I've warmed up to term limits recently. I think 4 terms is sufficient. It strikes the balance between rewarding the good councillors and incessant incumbent advantage.
adma
Superstar
Keeping in mind that Rob Ford and Jack Layton had a counterintuitively collegial relationship when they were seatmates on Council in the early '00s.
Towered
Superstar
I'd go with 3. 16 Years is still a very long time.
Northern Light
Superstar
Fletcher is in year 20
Peruzza is in year 17
Thompson is in year 20
Holyday is in year 9 (seems like longer)
Perks is in year 17
So @mjl08 's 4-term limit would remove 4/5 of the above.
Bradford is term 2
Burnside is nominally term 1, but its his second stint.
facepalming_brooklynite
Active Member
You forget Frances Nunziata, who was first elected in 1988!
Northern Light
Superstar
Someone apparently threatening Mayoral candidates with a firearm.
Bradford and Saunders withdrawing from a debate tonight pending apprehension of the suspect, waiting to hear from other candidates.
www.thestar.com
Bradford and Saunders withdrawing from a debate tonight pending apprehension of the suspect, waiting to hear from other candidates.
Toronto mayoral campaign event cancelled after security threat; suspect arrested
Suspect in custody late Thursday after threats uttered against mayoral candidates.
www.thestar.com
toonderly
Active Member
Current update is the entire event has been cancelled.Someone apparently threatening Mayoral candidates with a firearm.
Bradford and Saunders withdrawing from a debate tonight pending apprehension of the suspect, waiting to hear from other candidates.
Toronto mayoral campaign event cancelled after security threat; suspect arrested
Suspect in custody late Thursday after threats uttered against mayoral candidates.
Northern Light
Superstar
Very unfortunate.
Adverse to democracy.
As the suspect is known, I hope an arrest will be made with all due haste and the event rescheduled.
A number of the candidates have closed their campaign offices