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Steve Munro has backed Olivia https://stevemunro.ca/2023/06/17/why-i-voted-for-olivia-chow/ His reasoning is persuasive and, as always, worth reading.
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Islington Express Bus
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I might be misunderstanding your comment but haven't there been several elections since then with bigger blowouts?
picard102
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She hired the best person for the job. Winning is winning.
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He MAY be good at his job but his presence reduces her stature and has certainly driven a few possible supporters, including me, away. The question is, is he actually attracting more voters or repelling more.
Admiral Beez
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Of non-incumbents? I don‘t think so. Maybe Tory? Anyway, my point is that Chow’s going to exceed her polling numbers.
adma
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To some degree, I'd err on the side of "inside baseball" caution when it comes to Kouvalis vis-a-vis Bailao. Or, he's not the reason why Bailao's campaign hasn't inspired--or, well, actually, maybe he *is* a reason in that he's been uncharacteristically restrained in his running of the Bailao campaign operation. By comparison, the fingerprints of Teneycke/Ballingall are all over Bradford's campaign--and fatally so.
Incidentally, I've started seeing Rob Davis signs, and it's interesting that it's *him* who's adopted the "Mayor Ford" sign livery (the black-on-white/white-on-red, that is)
adma
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I'm not sure about *exceeding* her poll numbers; but Chow's in a position where she could conceivably win w/less than 40% of the vote and have *no* opponent crack double digits. (The fact that she has so many viable opponents in an omnishambles of mutual cancellation probably ensures by default that there's a ceiling to her support.)
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I followed your suggestion - I assume he will be gone by morning!
John_Dee
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I took a walk through my immediate neighborhood yesterday (I'm downtown), and was surprised to see only one candidate sign on a front lawn. (It was for Bailao, if anybody cares.) This is pretty unusual for my area, and I can only conclude people are weary of the constant elections we've been getting in recent years. That may also explain the surprising lead Chow seems to have: She's been around for many a year, is a familiar face, seems harmless/inoffensive enough, people like her well enough - or, at last, aren't repulsed by her. Well, except for the Toronto Sun crowd, that is. Heh, heh, heh.
The attempts to portray her as some dangerous radical really are embarrassing. She's always struck me as a fairly modest social democrat type. Oddly, I think she's the John Tory of this election, providing a comforting familiarity along with a lack of drama. Yes, that latter point is still a significant factor IMO*. If Tory were running this time I think he probably would be re-elected for that reason alone. With no Tory, she's the closest thing, it's just that she's just approaching the situation from the left-of-center instead of the right-of-center.
*It's bizarre that a certain obese, brain-dead, crack-addicted and thankfully dead moron is still affecting things like this after all these years. But here we are. "Lack of drama" is still something people seem to badly crave after that subhuman cretin's rampage in public office. Tory was still benefitting from it until things fell apart for him just recently.
The attempts to portray her as some dangerous radical really are embarrassing. She's always struck me as a fairly modest social democrat type. Oddly, I think she's the John Tory of this election, providing a comforting familiarity along with a lack of drama. Yes, that latter point is still a significant factor IMO*. If Tory were running this time I think he probably would be re-elected for that reason alone. With no Tory, she's the closest thing, it's just that she's just approaching the situation from the left-of-center instead of the right-of-center.
*It's bizarre that a certain obese, brain-dead, crack-addicted and thankfully dead moron is still affecting things like this after all these years. But here we are. "Lack of drama" is still something people seem to badly crave after that subhuman cretin's rampage in public office. Tory was still benefitting from it until things fell apart for him just recently.
Northern Light
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Back to our regularly scheduled programming, The Star is out with a new Ipsos poll.
@mjl08 must have slept in or it would have been posted by now..... LOL
www.thestar.com
Chow 38
Saunders 14
Bailao 12
Matlow 10
Furey 7
Hunter 6
Bradford 6
@mjl08 must have slept in or it would have been posted by now..... LOL
Olivia Chow enters final week of mayoral campaign leading in every corner of Toronto, new poll says
Ipsos survey for the Toronto Star and Global News pegs Chow’s citywide support at 38 per cent compared to only 14 per cent for her nearest rival Mark Saunders.
www.thestar.com
Chow 38
Saunders 14
Bailao 12
Matlow 10
Furey 7
Hunter 6
Bradford 6
Admiral Beez
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I was at Carleton University in the early 1990s and in addition to Usenet (which was mostly porn, IIRC) we had Freenet for discussions. In the 1980s, it was BBS.
Pacer
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Back to our regularly scheduled programming, The Star is out with a new Ipsos poll.
@mjl08 must have slept in or it would have been posted by now..... LOL
Olivia Chow enters final week of mayoral campaign leading in every corner of Toronto, new poll says
Ipsos survey for the Toronto Star and Global News pegs Chow’s citywide support at 38 per cent compared to only 14 per cent for her nearest rival Mark Saunders.
Chow 38
Saunders 14
Bailao 12
Matlow 10
Furey 7
Hunter 6
Bradford 6
Sounds about right, especially where Chow is trending. If she can push through the 40% barrier, that'd be a very successful campaign. I'm sure her team will be looking at an extremely thorough election day operation to make sure.
If Saunders loses, and can't win in his own backyard (North York), does he go away from politics for awhile or does he position himself for the inevitable Federal election?
I have the same question of Bailao as well, but think this could be the end of her in city politics, with her pivoting to a Bonnie Crombie OLP.
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I honestly fail to see why anyone would support Saunders for mayor or as a (doubtless Conservative) MP. He was not a good police chief and one can point to so many things that went wrong (the McArthur mess or the failure to find Tess Richey's body) or were simply ignored (traffic offences). As he was pretty much given all the $$ he wanted, I do not think 'budget pressures' are an excuse. The sooner he is defeated, the sooner we may stop hearing about him.