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Bad idea.

He's a stellar candidate for the leadership who would ruin his reputation with a blowout loss.
I think he knows he wouldn't win, but maybe his goal is to outperform the blowout and salvage a decent number of seats, like say 60 or 70, and then sit as opposition leader and spend the next four years attacking PP and hope to make it in the following election.
 
Bad idea.

He's a stellar candidate for the leadership who would ruin his reputation with a blowout loss.
Why is Carney a stellar candidate? Carney may be an excellent apparatchik and bureaucrat, but he’s never run for public office, not even at the lowest municipal elections. Maybe before contesting the leadership Carney should win a seat in parliament and sit a term as an opposition critic. Honestly, I see another Ignatieff-like failure coming with Carney.
 
The Toronto Star lists many potential Liberal leadership candidates:
  • Chrystia Freeland
  • Mark Carney
  • Dominic LeBlanc
  • Mélanie Joly
  • Christy Clark
Also, two names mentioned that I hadn't heard until now:
  • Karina Gould, MP for Burlington and cabinet minister
  • Steven MacKinnon, MP for Gatineau and cabinet minister
Not mentioned, but two names that have been widely discussed:
  • Anita Anand, MP for Oakville and cabinet minister
  • François-Philippe Champagne, MP for Saint-Maurice-Champlain and cabinet minister
 
The Toronto Star lists many potential Liberal candidates:
  • Chrystia Freeland

Interested. (making calls)

To me, not a winning choice.

  • Mark Carney

Interested (making calls)

To me, not a winning choice.

  • Dominic LeBlanc

Don't know if he's interested.

  • Mélanie Joly

Not sure whether she'll try. I don't like her chances.

  • Christy Clark

Definitely kicking tires..........

Has potential, media savvy, telegenic......

But...lots of baggage from her BC days.

Also, two names mentioned that I hadn't heard until now:
  • Karina Gould, MP for Burlington and cabinet minister
  • Steven MacKinnon, MP for Gatineau and cabinet minister

Haven't heard anything about those two running yet; Karina has a lot to recommend her, but I can't see her winning.....

Not mentioned, but two names that have been widely discussed:
  • Anita Anand, MP for Oakville and cabinet minister
  • François-Philippe Champagne, MP for Saint-Maurice-Champlain and cabinet minister

Well known as potential candidates.

*****

You left out...........

Jane Philpott is apparently thinking about it........... (former Trudeau minister, quit on principle, in support of Minister Wilson Reybould, current Dean of Medicine at Queens, and Premier Ford just appointed her as his Primary Care czar.) I like Jane. I'm surprised to see her mulling it over.

Judy Wilson-Reybould is also apparently musing...... she has the credentials of clearly not liking the current PM, despite checking some boxes, I'd broadly consider her more centre-right within the party, she reads as tough minded. But she burned a few bridges on the way out the door.
 
...potential Liberal leadership candidates:
  • Chrystia Freeland
  • Mélanie Joly
  • Christy Clark
  • Karina Gould
  • Anita Anand
Any of the these or other female MPs would be mad to follow Trudeau. After the unavoidable destruction of the LPC in this coming election, you'll be forever labeled as the Red Kim Campbell.

Better to let one of the old boys take the fall and instead be around to lead the rebuilding for the 2029 election, and then contest the PM role in the following 2033 election.
 
Kim Campbell's name is in every history book as one of the Prime Ministers of Canada, which is probably reason enough for any of those people to throw their hat in. They may not be PM for a long time, but it may be their only shot at ever doing the job (which was probably true of Kim Campbell as well, given we didn't have another PC PM for 13 years).
 
They may not be PM for a long time, but it may be their only shot at ever doing the job (which was probably true of Kim Campbell as well, given we didn't have another PC PM for 13 years).
But unlike Campbell, this is not their only shot. Poilievre may well get his majority on the back of national antipathy towards Justin, but the Cons will most likely score a minority in the following election. With Trudeau gone, the Liberals should avoid a Campbell-like wipe out to two seats, so will have a solid foundation to build upon. That's the opportunity for Liberal MPs who aspire to be the first female elected PM in Canadian history.
 
A possible shot at becoming PM by winning a leadership race, and then an election, at some point five or more years distant from now is very different from a shot at winning a leadership race and immediately becoming PM for certain in the next 30-60 days. I could see anyone in that group being willing to take that shot, even if they'll become "the next Kim Campbell".

Kim Campbell, btw, has had a whole bunch of very fun-sounding jobs/roles/positions since her time as PM. There are a whole lot of things worse than becoming the next Kim Campbell.
 
Dominic LeBlanc, considered one of the leadership frontrunners, is out.


I called that...........I had not heard of any movement by him to fundraise or take a serious shot.

Also he's had 2 bouts with cancer already.......... I'm not sure what his health is like today, hopefully well; but I think that might weigh on him.
 
A possible shot at becoming PM by winning a leadership race, and then an election, at some point five or more years distant from now is very different....
I predict chaos for the LPC in the years following Trudeau, akin to when Chrétien quit and we had over ten years a quick succession of six LPC interim or elected leaders: Martin, Graham, Dion, Ignatieff, Rae and Trudeau. Or when Harper lost, with the CPC leadership running through five interim and elected leaders: Ambrose, Scheer, O'Toole, Bergen and now Poilievre. Whomever replaces Trudeau now will almost assuredly not be the leader of the LPC for the 2029 election.

As Magneto says, "In Chess, the Pawns Go First". Any leadership candidate worth their powder will wait until after the March election. The glass cliff awaits any female MP foolish enough to step forward.

 
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Carney surprised me by making an appearance on The Daily Show tonight, in interview with Jon Stewart. I was impressed by how engaging he is as a communicator. I can see why PP is worried about him.

 
Carney surprised me by making an appearance on The Daily Show tonight, in interview with Jon Stewart. I was impressed by how engaging he is as a communicator. I can see why PP is worried about him.

Funny I thought quite the opposite.

I find Carney shines best in the long form and speaking in areas of expertise; but is a bit forced when he tries to be likeable - an area where I think he needs a bit of work. Not as bad as Ignatieff, but needs work... That seems to line up given his lack of political experience.

It will be interesting to see how well speaks to about topics he doesn't know too much about, without speaking uniquely from an economic perspective. I fear he may lose some of the electorate if he does so without some of the shine.

I'm also having trouble finding interviews with him in French. If he doesn't have good grasp of the language, Quebec is lost. The bar for speaking French has gone up over the years in that province, should he face off against the other leaders (in French).
 

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