Wax
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The idea of a transfer window is more for long city routes. I dont think the design is for people to try and get to and from a destination.
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degrandprix
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thommyjo
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I think 2hrs can make transit more accessible for quicker trips to run errands for example. So I’d support that.
But I think we need zones then too. As mentioned in the article, if people need more than 90min to complete their trip, 1 way, that means they are utilizing a lot of transit resources due to their choice of neighbourhood. I think it’s fair to ask them to pay more to acknowledge the increased costs to service them.
Same way Vancouver does it we should.
But I think we need zones then too. As mentioned in the article, if people need more than 90min to complete their trip, 1 way, that means they are utilizing a lot of transit resources due to their choice of neighbourhood. I think it’s fair to ask them to pay more to acknowledge the increased costs to service them.
Same way Vancouver does it we should.
EdwardEdm
Active Member
A bit of context too with Calgary, and why I think @YEG Bus Rider mentioned the potentially getting rid of the discounted $3 Arc fare in conjunction with a longer transfer, is that Calgary's cheapest fare is $4. For some reason they don't offer discounted bus tickets like ETS did, or does now with Arc usage. $4 cash, or 10 tickets for $40.
I agree on zones, and we sort of already do have zones. It's a lot less clear these days, but there used to a $1 zone fee between between Edmonton and Strathcona and St. Albert and it was advertised as such. Over the years the pricing drifted between St. Albert and Strathcona, and we added more regional agencies with varying fares. My recent experience with Arc has only be between St. Albert and Strathcona but that "zone charge" is still there. I have a $3 fare, I get charged $1.25 to transfer to a St. Albert bus and ride to St. Albert.
Some uniformity would be nice.
Personally I've always like the idea of:
Zone 1- Edmonton within the Henday
Zone 2- Within Henday and Highway 19/ 21/ 61
Zone 3- Anything beyond.
If there was another zone within Edmonton I think it should be cheaper than $3.
It should be noted that the way Vancouver does zones only applies to Skytrain. Buses are all one zone regardless of how many actual zones you cross on the bus.
SarcasticMarmot
Active Member
It's the 21st century, we absolutely should not be considering zones. Distance based fares are easy to implement, better incentivize people to make different length trips, and don't create weird perverse incentives around zone boundaries. Most of Asia and parts of Europe have been using distance based fares for decades, and with arc's tap on tap off system it would be easy to implement. Zones are a relic of the era of paper tickets and a lack of imagination on administration's side.
thommyjo
Senior Member
Agreed. That’s fair. I think zones has just been the standard in NA. It’d be fascinating to understand how they would need to price to ensure revenues don’t accidentally drop.