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Northern Light said:
Thank you for this, as always, you take these things from clear as mud to clear as (clear) glass.

On the substance, looks like a slight deterioration of service overall.

I wonder if BT had a heads up on today's K-W announcement which included many new trains to Bramalea and other service adjustments likely to impact them. The above seems to suggest not given that the next board period for Brampton is January. One would assume some impact to Steeles and Bramalea services in particular.
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I would guess that they didn’t or else I would have expected a bucketload of routes that say “route adjusted to meet GO Train times” but on that front, I would really like to see some service changes really dedicated to better aligning route trips with GO train times, because as GO train times have adjusted quite a bit over the couple of months, I’ve noticed many routes out of sync with them.
 
It used to be that GO Transit/Metrolinx would have provided the municipal agencies with advance notice of train schedule changes, but in the last few years, they find these out at the same time as the general public, because the provincial government doesn’t want to be scooped on any service improvement that they don’t get to announce at a photo op first.

Just one of the many ways the Ford Conservatives have made Metrolinx worse.
 
Announcement today.

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Allandale25 said:
And the associated news release:

Canada, Ontario and Brampton invest in 136 new buses for Brampton Transit - Canada.ca

The Government of Canada, the Government of Ontario and the City of Brampton are investing over $183 million to purchase 136 new buses for Brampton Transit, expanding local transit capacity, safety and user experience.
www.canada.ca www.canada.ca
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Allandale25 said:
Announcement today.

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Allandale25 said:
And the associated news release:

Canada, Ontario and Brampton invest in 136 new buses for Brampton Transit - Canada.ca

The Government of Canada, the Government of Ontario and the City of Brampton are investing over $183 million to purchase 136 new buses for Brampton Transit, expanding local transit capacity, safety and user experience.
www.canada.ca www.canada.ca
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It’s honestly great to hear! This sum of buses definitely suggests that they purchased both expansive and replacement fleets, since some of their oldest Nova buses turn 21 in 2026 (which I believe have commenced the process of retirement). All around great news! Thanks for sharing!
 
Interesting little quirk this board. Brampton Transit seems to be testing interlining more in depth, with operators having to do multiple different routes for one block. While interlining has existed before, (eg. 10/20, 12/16, 24/25, 32/33…) now, there is a lot more than that.

Gateway Terminal has routes 2, 3/3A, 4/4C, 8, 11/11A/11D, 51, 52, 53, 54, 56 and 57 (and in some cases 199 and 511) part of the interlining, meaning certain blocks do almost all routes listed.

Bramalea Terminal/GO Station has routes 8, 10, 12, 13, 15/15A, 16, 17, 20/20A and 115

For Mount Pleasant Village, it only happens during AM peak and evening periods between Routes 27 and 28/28A

I’m not too sure what the benefits are to this, if any other than reliability at times.
 
zoomzoom1010 said:
Interesting little quirk this board. Brampton Transit seems to be testing interlining more in depth, with operators having to do multiple different routes for one block. While interlining has existed before, (eg. 10/20, 12/16, 24/25, 32/33…) now, there is a lot more than that.

Gateway Terminal has routes 2, 3/3A, 4/4C, 8, 11/11A/11D, 51, 52, 53, 54, 56 and 57 (and in some cases 199 and 511) part of the interlining, meaning certain blocks do almost all routes listed.

Bramalea Terminal/GO Station has routes 8, 10, 12, 13, 15/15A, 16, 17, 20/20A and 115

For Mount Pleasant Village, it only happens during AM peak and evening periods between Routes 27 and 28/28A

I’m not too sure what the benefits are to this, if any other than reliability at times.
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It's mostly reliability. Sometimes buses will get stuck due to mechanical issues or rider issues where other intervention may be required. To keep the route going, they may tell another operator to switch to another route if they're running late on it, or will eventually run late on it, especially if that route is one of their busy routes where they're trying to get as many people out of the terminal as possible.

I mean, that would be the most logical plan anyway.
 
Downtown Brampton Transit Hub upcoming PIC:

The City of Brampton is undertaking a study to plan and design a new transit hub in the Downtown core, to address future transit needs and take advantage of opportunities to better integrate with other initiatives in Downtown Brampton.

As part of the public engagement process, the first Public Information Centre (PIC #1) was held virtually on November 22, 2023. The project team introduced the study and gathered feedback from the public on the evaluation of long-listed options.

We are now scheduled to hold the second Public Information Centre (PIC #2) for the Downtown Brampton Transit Hub in an Open House format. The purpose of the second Public Information Centre is to provide an update on the project and gather public feedback on the evaluation of short-list options and the preliminary preferred option.

In-Person Public Information Centre #2

Date: December 3, 2025

Location: Conservatory, Brampton City Hall ( 2 Wellington St W, Brampton, ON L6Y 4R2, Canada)

Time: 6:30 p.m. to 8:30 p.m.

Following the conclusion of the second Public Information Centre, a recorded presentation and feedback form will be available online from December 4, 2025, to January 15, 2026, on the project website, www.brampton.ca/transithub
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The go-forward option appears to be closest to the old Option 2d:

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I like the layout, though it requires a long loop for most buses, exiting over at Mill Street (previous plans had it going only to Elizabeth Street), though it appears to be set up well for 501 Queen Zum, which gets a quick loop back eastbound via George Street. It minimizes roadway crossings and should have the easiest transfers to GO trains, though it'll be a long walk from some local buses to the proposed LRT entrance at Nelson and Main.

It also shows how much the 35 Railroad development helped to inform this layout.

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The design looks nice. I'm hoping that with it, they'll be able to add the additional track(s) for the Kitchener line. That was my main concern with any of the proposed changes.

I recall several months back of the city telling developers for a specific block that instead of three buildings as planned, they were required to do two buildings instead. I'm not sure what came of that, but I'm hoping we can follow through with this. It looks promising.
 
JJTheJetPln said:
The design looks nice. I'm hoping that with it, they'll be able to add the additional track(s) for the Kitchener line. That was my main concern with any of the proposed changes.

I recall several months back of the city telling developers for a specific block that instead of three buildings as planned, they were required to do two buildings instead. I'm not sure what came of that, but I'm hoping we can follow through with this. It looks promising.
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The schematic shows the third track on the south side, with the current south side planform becoming an island platform.

The construction of that third track is what requires the new terminal and partial closure of Railroad Street.
 
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