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Does this mean Sheridan College Luck out for a campus here now?

How tall will they be since there are 2-3 level townhouses condo's on the opposite side of Hurontario now including Burger King. High School and single homes along Bristol at the south end. The Peel District School Board Head office is at the north end.

By: John Stewart

April 10, 2008 10:22 PM - The Peel District School Board will preserve 85 per cent of its sprawling 200-acre Britannia Farm in the heart of Mississauga by brokering a deal to build up to eight high-rise offices along the farm's remaining frontage on Hurontario St.

At a public meeting tonight Board Chair Janet McDougald explained that the board decided in camera at its March 25 meeting to approve a 99-year lease with Osmington Inc. that will allow the firm to apply for a rezoning to the City to build 850,000 sq. ft. (85,000 sq. m.) of office space on 31.67 acres of the farm property.

The development will stretch from the southern limits of the playground at the historic Britannia school house (just opposite Barondale Dr.) south to Bristol Rd. and then wrap around the corner to extend part-way along Bristol.
"We want to preserve this beautiful jewel in the middle of the City but we require long-term stable funding so students can better use it," McDougald said in a media briefing before the meeting. "It's a wonderful facility but it's underused for the value it could be producing for students."
The plan to build offices is just the latest in a long line of proposed projects for the farm, which was granted to the board's predecessor bodies in trust in 1833 by King William IV. It was to be used solely for the benefit of Peel's schoolchildren.

Under the approved deal, which was the culmination of a task force process begun several years ago, Osmington will pay the board a huge sum of money upfront for the entire 99-year lease period.

McDougald, who chaired the task force, said she could not reveal the amount of that payment because the lease has not been finalized. As soon as the figure is known, which should be in June, it will be made public.

The money will be paid within two years, if Osmington wins approval from the municipality for the buildings. Board officials said the use is complimentary to the office corridor concept already approved along Hurontario.

"It all comes down to money, ultimately," McDougald told reporters. "We've tried numerous things for the farm but there's nothing in the (educational) funding formula that really covers it."

Osmington will move the historic Conover barn and the Dunton house and bring them up to Building Code standards at their own expense.

Revenues from the lease could be used for such things as new nature paths on the property, washrooms and shelters for visiting students, interpretive areas for outdoor studies or revival of the maple sugaring shack that was a feature of the farm for many years.

McDougald admitted there is no guarantee that future trustees will use the money exclusively for the farm and outdoor education but said the current board will set guidelines that make it clear that is their intention.
"It's inappropriate to put a very tall building next to our very small schoolhouse," said one member of the Friends of the Old Britannia Schoolhouse said during a question period.

Park Royal resident Janet Seabrook was appalled that, after a lengthy public process, the board had approved the plans without coming back for input from the community about the final shape of the plan. "If you're having a public process, why not invite everyone to come and look at the last two proposals?
The process may have been open for the first three years but for the last one, it hasn't been open at all," she said.

Ninety-two-year-old Ben Madill, who started school at the Britannia School House in 1921 and was instrumental in saving it, told The News that he had mixed feelings about the plans. "You hate to see it done but they've got to do something."

Jim Murray, senior vice-president of DTZ Barnicke, the consultant that assisted with the bidding process said in an interview that the frontage along Hurontario St., "is the best piece of undeveloped property in the Region of Peel. This will be a signature site for quality."

The key part of the deal is that the board retains ownership and will acquire everything on the property eventually, Murray said. "Somebody will look brilliant in 99 years."

http://www.mississauga.com/article/12996
 
8 highrise office towers, 850,000 sq.ft of office space total... how 'high' are we looking at?

I guess Sheridan is stuck with a city centre location or nothing!

Edit: Rough calculations tell me 10 stories each is pushing it. Were looking at 5-8 storeys per tower. Not exactly the "high-rises" or "innapropriately tall" buildings the article refers to.
 
granted to the board's predecessor bodies in trust in 1833 by King William IV. It was to be used solely for the benefit of Peel's schoolchildren

Nothing says school children like office buildings. I fail to see the urgency to do something with the property now. The property was given in 1833 and over a 184 year period school boards have managed to keep it free of unrelated developments.

"It all comes down to money, ultimately," McDougald told reporters. "We've tried numerous things for the farm but there's nothing in the (educational) funding formula that really covers it."

Really? Its all about money? Is there any way we can make money by opening a casino staffed by kindergarteners? If King William IV wanted to give the school board money he would have done so but of course the school board would have spent it all by now. Maybe Toronto should lease out High Park to condo developers for 99 years to raise money... for the kids.
 
This sounds like a suburban office park in the making....not good...:(
 
Sheridan's plan is for the west side of the site if I remember correctly, so this plan could co-exist with it, and together they could all help to hem it in.

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Yeah, the "towers" sound like they would be one of those highway-side corporate centres at best (427/Dundas, 404/Finch, etc).

Sheridan's plan is for the west side of the site if I remember correctly, so this plan could co-exist with it, and together they could all help to hem it in.

You mean towards McLaughlin Road? It's probably better for them to intensify their McLaughlin-Steeles campus, rather than having three campuses (or campi if you prefer) all within a 30-45 minute drive from each other. The decentralization of post-secondary institutions is getting insane.
 
The site:

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I have mixed feelings about this news. Part of me would love to see office buildings along the Hurontario frontage, but part of me wishes they could keep the whole site intact as is.

As for Sheridan wanting the McLaughlin side, um, why? I'd rather they had the Hurontario side or a MCC location.
 
I have mixed feelings about this news. Part of me would love to see office buildings along the Hurontario frontage, but part of me wishes they could keep the whole site intact as is.

As for Sheridan wanting the McLaughlin side, um, why? I'd rather they had the Hurontario side or a MCC location.

Sheridan's Davis campus is on McLaughlin, so I guess getting between both campuses would be easier if kept on the same street. With the Confederation pkwy expansion, students will still be pretty close to MCC.
 
I can't see a Sheridan campus being built on the McLaughlin side of the campus. That part of the farm property is wooded, and in addition McLaughlin is not really an arterial street. It was deliberately not widened at this point. Last but not least it's immediately adjacent to a low-rise residential community. The local residents would rightly object to the traffic.

The Hurontario frontage would have been OK for a Sheridan campus, but it sounds like that will not be the case now.

Office buildings of a few storeys would be quite appropriate along Hurontario. It fits the objectives of the Hurontario Street corridor.
 
I can't wait to get before council to say this is a poor joke and land use.

Sorry, 6 stories office building doesn't cut for this area. If you say the whole section on Hurontario was one 6 story block anchor by 2 30-40 floor tower's at each end, I will buy into it.

It would be nice to see retail at street level.

Will support the proposed LRT on Hurontario.

I'm tried of seeing stand alone building with no base and large green space between them for the car folks.

Observer Walt was found saying: I can't see a Sheridan campus being built on the McLaughlin side of the campus. That part of the farm property is wooded, and in addition McLaughlin is not really an arterial street. It was deliberately not widened at this point. Last but not least it's immediately adjacent to a low-rise residential community. The local residents would rightly object to the traffic.

Totally agree.

I know someone who lives right across the street from this proposal and they will complain about the traffic. A lot of NIMBY in this area. This is a very heavy traffic area now for 7 lanes. It can take as much as 15 minutes to south of this area at peak time to the 403.
 
I can't see a Sheridan campus being built on the McLaughlin side of the campus. That part of the farm property is wooded, and in addition McLaughlin is not really an arterial street. It was deliberately not widened at this point. Last but not least it's immediately adjacent to a low-rise residential community. The local residents would rightly object to the traffic.

The Hurontario frontage would have been OK for a Sheridan campus, but it sounds like that will not be the case now.

Office buildings of a few storeys would be quite appropriate along Hurontario. It fits the objectives of the Hurontario Street corridor.

Its the city of Mississauga we are talking about here. They chopped down an entire forest just to build the northern Mavis extension despite all the local opposition. We were promised parks, trails and a school on that land when we bought here... a few years later there were notices saying the forest would have to be removed in order to build a Mavis extension. They started by just removing the area where the road would cut through, and later on removed everything. They even drained a pond that had fish and turtles (and wasn't in the way of the Mavis extension)
 
I shudder thinking about what used to be there. It's too sad to even think about. I remember back when driving up Mavis, you had two choices at Britannia: go left or go right. I wonder if anyone has any pictures of how it looked back then, for those memories fade more with each passing year.
 
I shudder thinking about what used to be there. It's too sad to even think about. I remember back when driving up Mavis, you had two choices at Britannia: go left or go right. I wonder if anyone has any pictures of how it looked back then, for those memories fade more with each passing year.

I remember the sales office that stood just North of Britannia to the west of present day Mavis... thats where we bought our house from. There was a dirt road that we used as a shortcut to get to Boyer from Britannia... Boyer at the time was also nothing but a run down road leading to my subdivision. Even before my subdivision was built, I had lived a few blocks away on Second Line W... My house fronted onto a farm!

Its amazing how much it has changed. The nearest grocery store back then was the A&P on Britannia @ Glen Erin. The closest gas station was Petro Canada at Hurontario/Britannia until Shell was built at McLaughlin.

I miss those days.
 

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