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I find it so deliciously ironic that they're crying about needing regional partners to help pay for airport service when they just shot down a regional transit service that would have done exactly this, because it didn't benefit Edmonton enough in their eyes. I say regional partners shouldn't pay more than they already are - Edmonton can't have its cake and eat it too.

Council is not looking for regional partners according to the article but moreso business partners in the dt and so on.
Council is not looking for regional partners according to the article but moreso business partners in the dt and so on.
During the budget debate, I thought I remembered hearing councilors talk about how this would benefit the region too, and they were wondering if other municipalities (aside from Leduc) could be convinced to chip in. That being said, I can't find it right now since the presentation for it didn't take place at the same time they voted on it. Perhaps I misremembered and the discussion didn't go there - if I did, that's my bad. I'll keep poking around at some point to see if I can find the part where administration presented that idea and council discussed it.

From Michael Janz^

I was hoping for LRT down Whyte, but I think BRT will be a positive for the City and will (hopefully) encourage further TOD. I’m especially hoping for denser development in Old Strathcona.
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I was hoping for LRT down Whyte, but I think BRT be a positive for the City and will (hopefully) encourage further TOD. Im especially hoping for denser development in Old Strathcona.
The nice thing about BRT is that it is much easier to convert it to LRT than say a regular street later down the track. I'm in the camp that LRT needs to be put in a tunnel under Whyte however to be competitive with driving (or the current bus routes). I don't mind BRT down Whyte whatsoever as of right now, and as someone who takes the 404 down Whyte back and forth everyday, it would hopefully shorten my morning commute significantly.
Some problems with Whyte Ave is it is already congested with local traffic, parking, commuters and others using it. There are also large a number of intersections with other streets with lights.

Also whatever you do, the fundamental problem remains there is no other major east west route fairly directly connecting the U of A area with the eastern and suburban area of the city.

It is a very heavily used road, so I think any solution that does not involve an new route will just exacerbate other problems.
Given that Council has voted down first the EMTSC and then the airport bus service expansion, should people expect a three-peat with the proposed BRT network?
Given that the Number 4 (Bonnie Doon-WEM) is a popular route, I dont think it would need much more resources.
Ridership volume would likely shift from the 4 to proposed mass transit B2, east-west.

920X eliminated, 4 could be demoted from frequent route to crosstown route or split into local routes.
I think the challenge with Route 4 is that is has a lot of stops (and traffic lights) along Whyte Avenue, which is compounded with bad weather. Perhaps having priority signals on Whyte Avenue could speed up buses.
I wonder if the B2 could run from Bonnie Doon along Whyte Avenue west with stops at 91, 99 and 104 Street. The bus could continue west to 109 Street and turn south, continuing to 76 Avenue, There could be a stop at 114 Street (McKernan/Belgravia Station) and the bus could continue south to South Campus Station. The bus could continue west along Fox Drive/Whitemud like the proposed B2. There would be LRT access to the University Hospital and University of Alberta, and a lot of time savings bypassing the University.

The 4 could continue as an east-west route. The route from West Edmonton Mall to the U of A could continue the same, and the east segment could take a similar route to Sherwood Park's 414, taking 87 Avenue and Walterdale east to 98 Avenue. One of the stops could include the stop next to the Muttart Station. The bus could continue east to Capilano. The 8 (Abbottsfield-University) offers 12 minute service along Whyte Avenue, including OWL Service.
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With the 4 / B2, it could be a quick win to implement something like what Vancouver had on Broadway with the 9 / B99 combo.

On the other hand, the City might be aiming for something more substantial like Calgary's Max Purple, with dedicated BRT lanes and more substantial stops.

That being said, I am still opposed to the inclusion of 114 St. That corridor is already the bottleneck for LRT and piling on buses will only make things worse, particularly since it's the only access to University from the south. It's also deeply discouraging to see Whyte in the list of "areas that will never get LRT".

Either way, May is just a few months away -- we'll see then.

As well, maybe it would be better to have the B1 continue to the airport instead of selling the CBD-YEG bus as a standalone service?
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