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Go Elevated or try for Underground?

  • Work with the province and go with the Elevated option

    Votes: 50 79.4%
  • Try another approach and go for Underground option

    Votes: 9 14.3%
  • Cancel it altogether

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Go with a BRT solution

    Votes: 3 4.8%

  • Total voters
    63
Some updated options the city is considering for the Beltline portion

Green Line LRT evaluates two additional alignment options for Beltline segment

http://www.calgarycitynews.com/2017/04/green-line-lrt-evaluates-two-additional.html?m=1

  • Transition to 10 Avenue S Option: this would see the line jog north from the Centre Street station on 12 Avenue S to 10 Avenue S, where it would run parallel to the south side of the CP tracks until it reaches the Inglewood/Ramsay station
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  • Staged Option: this would allow the Green Line to skirt the Transit Centre until the Centre is re-located, at which time the Green Line tracks would be re-aligned and a station would be built on the former Transit Centre lands
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Hi Group,

So Which Option Would I Take? Try the Option in the Bigger Map of Sorts. Looks like the Most "Cost Effective Option" in the long term
of Routes. Its My Honest View that a Route on 12th Ave S,E. Right out to the end of 12th Ave and into Ramsey Areas would B a lot Easier but I doubt the Politicos/Planners have what it Takes to Better Plan Routes and perhaps look at Cost Savings.? Also I Question the so
Called Relocation of the VPTC/Garage. $300 Million is LOT of Money in My Book. Also Have been to the 2nd Floor of the VPTC and sure there are some small offices etc, UNLESS its Moved to the North East Location {Not Sure} the South end of the 2nd Floor Houses the ENTIRE Calgary Transit CTC Track on the Big Board for BOTH the Red & Blue Lines. That Also, Includes Track/Switches on 7th Ave. All the Video Cameras etc, All the
Switches Both Manual/Interlocking and Signals ABS/Interlocking, are Housed on the 2nd Floor. Learning Rail/Rail Transit Dispatching in My 20s HAS its Advantages. To Relocate that Operation Would B Costly.When I Visit the Calgary Transit Booth at the Model Train Show in the North East Sportsplex this Wkd, I will B asking if the Rail Transit Dispatching is Still at VPTC. Time to Get an Update. Owe it to Myself.
Also as a Matter of Operations, the 2200, 2300 and 2400 Series Cars CAN NOT B COMBINED with Other Cars as the
Technology in Each Series is Totally Different - Not Compatable. All A C Operations but Different. The Only Two Cars, No 2100, 2101 Can B Operated With the 2200s They are A C Acquired from Edmonton Years Back.
Hopes This Helps.

Tnx,
Operater.
 
Thanks for posing all the picks AJX. This is all a bit pedantic to me. I don't live in the area so I don't really have any skin in the game. All I cared was that the line be tunneled at least past Macleod and it seems that I have my wish.

Operater, your typing is a bit dense for me to read very legibly (sorry :oops:), but I think you raise a decent point about cost effectiveness. So I think I'll shrug and say, "whichever is cheaper and gets holes dug sooner."
 
All I cared was that the line be tunneled at least past Macleod and it seems that I have my wish.

Agree here. Make it work, balance price with quality, decide the route, approve everything to go to a design estimate, hopefully before city council hits the red line of the election.
 
Hi Group,

OK, I had a Chance to visit the Calgary Transit Booth at the Model Train Show. Picked Up some Interesting Information. YES the Dispatching Operations Centre is MOVING. Not to where I figured - North East Location. TRY the Westbrook Mall Location. No Bull! OK Calgary Transit OWNS the Land Rights on Top of the Westbrook
Station. To B expected. Why There? OK VPTC is ON a Flood Plain. It was also Impacted by the Floods of 2013. Woops shit happens. Its now to small as well. The Garage stays there for now. The Operations Centre will B in a New Larger Centre to include Expansion South to Silverado and a possible further South Location. Also plans are for Two North East Stations to B Blt at some future time. West Expansion? Not at this time but a Provision is there for 85th St and a possible 100 St. Terminal at some future time. The CTC "Big Board", the Security Cameras, ABS/Interlocking Signals, Manual/Interlocking Switches Will All B Operated out of Westbrook come Fall -
September if I am Correct. Location now U C. The "Operations Centre" is NOW say "Off Limits" to Everyone except if your There for "Business Only" and even then You
have to have Permission. Security will B Tight. With Radical Islamic Terrorism Its Easy to see Why. Something One of Those at the Booth Quietly Said to Me because No One was There to Hear Any Remarks. Will try to get more Updates later.

Tnx,
Operater.
 
I'd heard that they Westbrook location was being looked at for dispatch. My fiancee worked at transit many moons ago and she'd heard about the potential move, but apparently the whole thing was scrubbed at one point for budget reasons. I guess it's back in the works.
 
Yeah, was originally supposed to switchover to Westbrook concurrently with the building being completed, but the city deferred due to cash flow issues.
 
That building had sat largely empty for some time, but the last time I was by there, which was admittedly a few months ago now it looked like they'd started to make use of the space.
 
Hi Group,

Yes Calgary Transit took a Big Hit on the Floods in 2013. Impacted was the Tunnel just south of Earlton Station, that Bridge/Right of Way north of the Station Plus the Tunnel Under C.P. Rail, City Hall Basement/Parking took a Big Hit plus the VPTC Bldg. {Flood Plain). May have been considered as To Expensive but Flooding sure changed things Quickly.

Tnx,
Operater.
 
Hi Group,
I wasn't Going to say much - Yet, but would B interested in Hearing what Others have to say about the Green Line being CUT in Half to about 20 Kms. For Me Its a BIG Disappointment. Anyone Else feel the same way?

Tnx,
Operater.
 
It's a disappointment for sure. I kind of got the impression that the real push for the Green Line was to serve the sub-urban communities of North and SE Calgary, so it's kind of a surprise that they've been dropped. On the other hand, as a non-resident of those areas it doesn't affect me beyond saying that I wouldn't consider moving to either part of the city without the train line. The good is that 20km is a lot of train, and I'd rather have that underway and the rest phased in rather than wait around to do the whole thing in one shot. The city has a long history of phasing in the train lines, so I think it will all work out in the end.

It does seem like there's some low hanging fruit in extending to MacKenzie Towne and Centre North of 16th Ave. I hope we'll see those progress not to long after the initial phase.

One thing I was really hoping to get out of a potential Olympic Bid was an airport spur line. The Green being cut short could impact that too. At least a spur from the Blue Line is still possible.

Part of me is really starting to wonder if the impending autonomous revolution is going to put a serious freeze on future C-Train development. It almost sounds crazy to say, but by the time the first phase is done we could be on the cusp of a new world.
 
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People might not agree with me on this, but I'm okay, and maybe even happy with the shortening. I've always wanted to see the LRT as a more of an urban transportation system and less of a suburban commuter train. My only wish would be to push the line at least one or maybe two stops further north, as you could easily increase development along Centre street, and the cost would be fairly insignificant I would think.

Eventually the line would be phased in anyway, but having it shorter allows developers and the city an opportunity to better, serve, grow and leverage inner city densities.
 
Hi Group,
There are TWO Videos on U Tube, One is about 10.5 Minutes, the Other is 16 Minutes Produced by the City of Calgary on the Green Line. YES I Liked Them a Lot because
They were well done and the Neighbourhoods/Industrial/Commercial were areas I am well familiar with from my Days as a Courier. My knowledge of the Areas I felt were Assets in the Details (?) of how the City was able to Produce Good Quality Videos as Such. We can disagree on this and that is OK but I did Buy into the Videos that Shane Keating did on the Green Line. My Experience with the Alderman/Women Tells Me He is Honest/Sincere about the Green Line. I can Only assume He must B very Disappointed with the outcome of events. Can't Fault Him either really. Tough Call, but in My own way I DO hold the Mayor and Various other Alderman at Fault as I feel they were NOT as Honest as they should have been.

Tnx,
Operater,
 

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