Go Elevated or try for Underground?

  • Work with the province and go with the Elevated option

    Votes: 8 72.7%

  • Try another approach and go for Underground option

    Votes: 2 18.2%

  • Cancel it altogether

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Total voters
    11
Furthermore, the lines don't connect, and the only place they pass they are at different elevations and in the middle of the downtown. Not great value to spend a billion dollars on a line connection to... not actually save any money on a rail yard, since you need to expand the existing facilities.

Also, what do people mean by the new line not using different train technology? Different from U2? From SD-160? From S200? We've already deployed three different train technologies on the existing high-floor lines. World hasn't ended.

The primary way to get more transit for less money is to disrupt road traffic, which has mostly been ruled out entirely, largely without discussion.
 
Drive around Stampede Park lately? ... 11 Ave, 12 Ave, 4 St ... what a mess with all the underground utility work going on and the resulting detours. It started about a year ago and will continue for awhile longer. All of this in preparation for the Green line. It is just as well that there has been no further development of those parking lots east of 4 St.
 
JonnyCanuck said:
Drive around Stampede Park lately? ... 11 Ave, 12 Ave, 4 St ... what a mess with all the underground utility work going on and the resulting detours. It started about a year ago and will continue for awhile longer. All of this in preparation for the Green line. It is just as well that there has been no further development of those parking lots east of 4 St.
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Given the lack of development in vicinty, I wouldn't have expected much in the way of existing utilities.
 
JonnyCanuck said:
Drive around Stampede Park lately? ... 11 Ave, 12 Ave, 4 St ... what a mess with all the underground utility work going on and the resulting detours. It started about a year ago and will continue for awhile longer. All of this in preparation for the Green line. It is just as well that there has been no further development of those parking lots east of 4 St.
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Drive? It's even worse on a bicycle or as a pedestrian. They couldn't even create a usable detour to get from Macdonald Avenue to the existing 12th ave cycle track. The one they've signed dead ends on Olympic Ave near Village ice cream.
 
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They have given a few million dollars to do the study on extending the blue line, so just engineering and design at this stage. They have already committed $1.5 billion to the green line (arguably more than that since the city's share is vacated provincial room from the school portion of the property tax). Perhaps they are waiting to see something come of that investment before throwing more at it?
 
O-tac said:
Heard an add from the UCP on the radio today announcing an lrt extension to the airport as a line item of the budget but zero about the Greenline.
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Ya, that ad is a stretch if I've ever heard one... to the casual listener it makes it sound like the UCP ponied up a bunch of money to build LRT to the airport. In reality they put $5 million in the last budget to fund a study. Our tax dollars are now going towards radio ads which are nothing but political spin to try and help them win votes in Calgary and chances are they won't ever get called out on it by the media. It drives me bonkers.
 
There is already a much more pleasant pathway along the river. The 18th St pilot was a pathetic attempt by neighbourhood Karens to reduce traffic passing through the area to QP.

A much better plan would be a pathway along the green line with connections through the communities to the Bow River pathway.
 
DougB said:
There is already a much more pleasant pathway along the river. The 18th St pilot was a pathetic attempt by neighbourhood Karens to reduce traffic passing through the area to QP.

A much better plan would be a pathway along the green line with connections through the communities to the Bow River pathway.
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That is an absurdly good idea.

I've thought before that there should be a MUP running along the red line in the south, but it would also be great here.
 
ahuch said:
Unless something changed it's a road and pedestrian tunnel, no truck traffic but other vehicles are permitted.

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I assume this was offered as some type of incentive to CP for them to play ball with the City for the rest of this project - but this type of thing is a good example of the scope creep that is continually driving up costs on transit project projects. The existing mainline level crossing on 69th has worked fine for years - even when there thousands of employees working in the Ogden Shops.
 
One step closer again I suppose...

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Green Line moves to final negotiations for the Development Partner Agreement

Following evaluation of the Request for Proposals (RFP) for construction of Phase 1, from Shepard to Eau Claire, the Green Line Board has confirmed the proponent team with the highest evaluation score and directed administration to proceed to final negotiations for the Development Phase...
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