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Well sumer is definitely over now, did I miss an update or has this just fallen off the province's radar?

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I think they’re too busy with strikes, recalls and all sorts of other fires (that they started themselves) to put out.
 
Well sumer is definitely over now, did I miss an update or has this just fallen off the province's radar?

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In an interview with Postmedia, Transportation Minister Devin Dreeshen said the passenger rail master plan is still being finalized. He estimates that it will be coming after the beginning of second session of the legislature, which resumes Oct. 23. He said the province has been taking time to get things right.
I think the province must've underestimated how complicated the master plan would be with all the stakeholders and fitting the rail into the downtowns
 
Waterous just cannot help himself.


I'm sceptical of all of this, a private rail operator who has never operated rail, even a public operator who has never operated rail. I guess it is good that it is some news.
 
I think the province must've underestimated how complicated the master plan would be with all the stakeholders and fitting the rail into the downtowns

I suspect you're right about that last part, I've looked at possible routes for the YEG end and none will be simple, or cheap...

I'm sceptical of all of this, a private rail operator who has never operated rail, even a public operator who has never operated rail. I guess it is good that it is some news.

I didn't think this was still a separate plan? I thought the YYC / Banff project had been absorbed into the Province's plan, and upgraded to HSR?

Sounds likely want more stops than the HSR line would likely have, but I'm not sure that there'd be enough traffic for HSR and an extended commuter speed train.
 
Waterous just cannot help himself.


I'm sceptical of all of this, a private rail operator who has never operated rail, even a public operator who has never operated rail. I guess it is good that it is some news.

Tbf Jan seems to be the mouthpiece. But it's super exciting to hear that this project is shovel ready!!!!!!
we’ve done 10 years of studies, we’re shovel-ready,” she said.

Even so, she said two years would be needed to finalize the route’s design and further consult affected communities. If approved, it’s feasible the line could be operational by 2030, she added.
And because the plan has changed from its concept four years ago, with the airport to downtown leg coming under provincial jurisdiction, “we would have to renegotiate that with CPKC” on a right-of-way, said Waterous.
 
This strikes me as yet another strange attention-gathering attempt with some press-release journalism. Nothing is new or more shovel-ready than 3 or 4 months ago when they published their last press release.

What's always been weird is this family is just on their own proposing and coming up with stuff, announcing things as if they are progress when really they are still at the booster/advocacy stage. If you read any of these articles carefully, the boosters are advocating for their specific project with details apparently figured out (cost sharing, hydrogen trains for some reason, "shovel-ready" declarations etc.), whereas every other commenter, the province, the mayor etc. is talking about Calgary to Banff rail as a good idea more generally.
 
hydrogen trains for some reason
Danielle Smith wants hydrogen, Bow Valley environmentalists are against emissions and noise from diesel, so hydrogen it is.
as a good idea more generally.
There has been a lot more work on this than is public, it is stuck in analysis paralysis as the province plays with what it wants, versus what can be funded by partners. The province already changed the entire financing side of the project 3 years ago, not seeming to understand that changing one thing changed a lot of things, then balking at the cost of their change.

Hopefully with the masterplan the logjam can be broken.
 
Bow Valley environmentalists are against emissions and noise from diesel, so hydrogen it is.
Am I wrong in thinking a diesel train would be a drop in the bucket compared to all the auto/truck/bus traffic already on highways 1 and 1A, and the existing 3000 metre long freight trains in the corridor?
 
Am I wrong in thinking a diesel train would be a drop in the bucket compared to all the auto/truck/bus traffic already on highways 1 and 1A, and the existing 3000 metre long freight trains in the corridor?
They'd also support closing the highway and freight rail.
 

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