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Yesterday I saw the Google car outfitted with rooftop cameras working the Church/Wellesley neighbourhood.
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It would be a shame if Church Street lost all it's dance venues. What's a Gay Village without dance clubs? It seems to be happening all over. DAMN INTERNET!
I couldn't have said it better myself. As someone from the younger generation who never needed this "warrior" mentality, as you put it, I find the village serves more of a reminder of the accomplishments of those who preceded me, and makes me thankful that I don't have to fight the battles that have already been won.
Also, as someone who works with a diverse array of people from the queer community, it makes me mindful of the different experiences that people bring to the table, depending upon their generation.
To link it back to the discussion of the Church & Wellesley Village, I find it a bit of a historic anachronism, since most of my activities and friends are not in the village. That said, I can appreciate the history.
Church and Wellesley has become a Museum. I was walking through there the other day and it looked like a retirement community in south Florida.
What's going on with Remmington's?very true, and now, at least for the time being, the city has lost it's only gay strip club
I too would agree with this, but in Toronto, it's always been that way. It's not like its a new thing. Industry would have been a great example of this from our past.more and more i find myself going to str8 clubs...better music and usually a small gay segment around that don't frequent the village
Other than its possible historic value, I can't imagine anyone under 30 would find it appealing.
That leather bar on Church, whatever it's called - where the elderly gentlemen in too-tight outfits gather - must have some abiding appeal though, because I've seen younger guys in there too. That look - exaggerated butchness - was quite the done thing and was even seen as rather threatening 35 years ago; I remember when one of my ( straight ) art school teachers announced in class that he had shaved off his moustache because it was now such a "homosexual clone" look! Leather bars may now seem about as cutting edge as a meeting of the I.O.D.E., but the fact that they survive and are still popular is also a marker of the diversity of the gay world.
Is any strip bar not gross to some extent? Isn't that sort of the appeal? Personally, if I'm in the mood I love a night at Remmy's and I don't see why people in this city have a problem admitting it sometimes. Yes, there are better strip bars in Montreal, but Remmy's doesn't have any competition so I'm not sure we can really complain (when most North American cities have zero). Also, with current laws, if we lose Remmington's we'll never gain another so it's important it remains, gross imperfections and all.Remington's is gross so I don't see any problem with it being closed.
I think you hit the nail on the head. A Saturday night at Buddies really caters to a very pigeonholed 19-25 year old gay set. Oddly enough, 10-15 years ago, Buddies was Toronto's "alternative" gay bar. It lost its appeal for me about 10 years ago (and not really because I got old either).PS. I've been to many clubs, and Buddies has always been the best experience. Any friend that's gone or person I've taken there has loved it, gay or straight, male or female, and different ages (all fairly young though) too.
Well said.It's called The Black Eagal and it's probably the best place in the city to hook-up. (Which I'm sure none of you decent, upstanding types, would ever do. Well, if your friends were around, anyway. lol) I go to The Eagle and Remingtons and I enjoy them both. Every gay mecca needs a few places, for the more adventurous types. Not everybody in the gay community aspires to middle-class respectability. (thank god)
Remington's is gross so I don't see any problem with it being closed.
As for dance clubs, I am sure we will see a new one or two pop up over time, but yeah, the entertainment district and clubs all over the city are catering to a mixed (hetero/non-hetero) crowd these days. Which is good. Sadly, it is hurting the Village.
From what I heard, Crews will be closed until Pride-- but I was told that renovations were happening.
It's called The Black Eagal and it's probably the best place in the city to hook-up. (Which I'm sure none of you decent, upstanding types, would ever do. Well, if your friends were around, anyway. lol) I go to The Eagle and Remingtons and I enjoy them both. Every gay mecca needs a few places, for the more adventurous types. Not everybody in the gay community aspires to middle-class respectability. (thank god)
What is it that's so "GROSS" about a nude male body? Sounds like someone has some issues. I'm sure you have sex with all the lights off, if indeed, you have sex at all. lol There is nothing gross about Remingtons. How is it good to limit choices and lose the few sexy places we do have. Little by little, more and more will be taken away. Then before you realize it, The Gay Village will be no different than any other street in the city and we lose the only place we have for a bit of fun and sense of community.
And I guess if by "community" you mean bars that prominently play gay porn, and huge honkin' billboards advertising sex websites and places to hook up for anonymous sex then, well, have at it.