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Earlier today, the Government of Ontario shot down Toronto Budget Chief Carroll's idea of allowing Toronto to create a sales tax. So you will more than likely see a property tax increase of minimum 4% for 2010.
 
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Proposed fee would hit condo owners

As if Christmas shopping isn't going to be hard enough on the wallet, City Hall wants to ding homeowners and parking violators with higher user fees.

Toronto City Hall wants to hit buyers of new homes with a $50 fee to cover the cost of adding the newly created property to the tax roll.

Specifically, this new charge would apply to buyers of new condo units, and wouldn't be charged during subsequent sales of condos or homes.

The report to be tabled today at the government management committee also recommends jacking up other fees, including the price to print a previous-year tax receipt from $5 to $16, the cost to prepare a tax calculation statement from $35 to $50, and adding 50 cents to the current $1.50 fee to pay for a parking ticket by phone or the Internet.

According to City Hall staff, the new fees are being proposed to recover the administrative costs of the services.

But some committee members view it differently.

"This is a sign of desperate people doing desperate things," Councillor Doug Holyday said. "It's a sneaky way of getting money from people. Some municipalities might be doing it, but that doesn't make it right."

But Councillor Adam Vaughan, who isn't a member of the committee, said that by not charging the fees, such as the $50 one-time fee to set up a tax account for a newly built condo, current taxpayers were subsidizing administrative costs that should be paid for by the buyers themselves.

"Somebody's going to pay for it. I think it's pretty obvious it should be borne by the marketplace," he said. "New development has to pay its way."

Council will debate the staff report on Nov. 30.

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But Councillor Adam Vaughan, who isn't a member of the committee, said that by not charging the fees, such as the $50 one-time fee to set up a tax account for a newly built condo, current taxpayers were subsidizing administrative costs that should be paid for by the buyers themselves.

"Somebody's going to pay for it. I think it's pretty obvious it should be borne by the marketplace," he said. "New development has to pay its way."

That can only be true if it actually costs the city $50 to create a tax account. If it does, that's an indication something is very wrong in worker wages or productivity. Ignoring that though, it's amazing how the "taxpayers shouldn't subsidize user's costs" argument can be truned on and off to support the idea of the moment. I'm quite sure Vaughan thinks the taxpayers of Ontario and possibly all of Canada, should be subsidizing TTC costs.
 
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"taxpayers shouldn't subsidize user's costs" - Adam Vaughan

Then what the hell do we pay taxes for? So now user's of government services aren't taxpayers? Wow. A taxpayer going in to set up an account to pay taxes is not a taxpayer and shouldn't have his account setup be subsidized?

And yeah, if it really costs 50 bucks to setup an account to pay taxes, something is seriously wrong with the City's bureaucracy.

It's okay though. I want them to keep going. They'll antagonize the inner suburbanites into voting in a 416 version of Mike Harris. It's the only way they'll learn their lesson.
 
"Somebody's going to pay for it. I think it's pretty obvious it should be borne by the marketplace," he said. "New development has to pay its way."

New development does pay its way already. It keeps paying through the lifetime of all the units in a building (as in someone has to be paying municipal taxes on them).

The real danger is that the city can adjust this fee to whatever it wants. The taxpayer must, by law, pay taxes. The payer is captive.
 
I'm more pissed at charging more for paying your parking tickets online. Automated systems should have far less overhead once they've been set up. If anything, they should add fees to those who insist on paying their tickets in person, as that's really where the cost is coming from.
 
I'm more pissed at charging more for paying your parking tickets online. Automated systems should have far less overhead once they've been set up. If anything, they should add fees to those who insist on paying their tickets in person, as that's really where the cost is coming from.

That was my first thought, too. They're penalizing people that reduce their workload. Yeah, that makes sense. Only a bureaucrat would think of that. I blame the unions and the bosses equally. This mentality of tax increases before cost cutting has to change. People need to realize that a government is also subject to the economic realities of the world, and has to adapt to them.
 
A friend of mine has an op-ed in the Star today on how best to get Toronto out of its fiscal problems:

The City of Toronto's operating budget is in a scary state. City councillors will soon discuss ways to right their wayward bottom line. The trouble is that among the many options up for debate only a few smart ones exist.

To dig out of Toronto's half-billion dollar hole, Shelley Carroll, the city budget chief, is calling for Queen's Park to extend one percentage point of provincial sales tax revenue to cities. But Ontario, with unprecedented deficits of its own, has quickly rejected this proposal. The message: the City of Toronto can no longer pass the buck onto higher-order governments to bail out its bad habits.

Another new tax to be debated at city council is on billboards. Torontonians can expect a pitched battle over it. But the revenues from such a tax – the city expects to net less than $10 million per year – are a drop in the $500 million deficit bucket. If the city does not focus on limiting expenses this year and next, it will need to significantly expand its search for new revenues.

Although the main budget problem is with expenditures, new revenue options that the city actually has the power to levy can help reduce wasteful spending by charging for the services that people are willing to pay for.

For the short term, the city could consider smarter water pricing. And in the longer run, the best options are road tolls and TTC fares-by-distance. Together, these revenue tools could help Toronto make virtue out of fiscal vice.

Smarter revenue options for the city would aim to raise revenues to cover costs so that service benefits match with public expenses. In other words, those who overuse the services would pay more, while those who use a lower level of services would pay less. A user-pay system creates the right incentives and discourages undesirable waste.

The city is moving in the right direction by pricing water to better match delivery costs. Thanks to the universal implementation of water meters, households can be charged in relation to their level of water use and the costs of delivery. The schedule of annual hikes of 9 per cent to water prices should reduce excess water use and increase innovation. A further reform would apply higher prices for each unit of consumption and higher charges to houses that must have water pumped further to reach them. This means prices would align more closely to a full-cost approach.

Another smart option is tolls for the Don Valley Parkway and the Gardiner Expressway. The recently imposed vehicle registration fee does not link usage to costs. However, road tolls tax those who truly wear down the roads that need repair. According to the OECD, the excessive number of cars on Toronto's roads causes more than $3 billion in congestion costs. Tolls on the DVP or the Gardiner would directly charge those who contribute to the traffic congestion and pollution in the downtown core. This would lead to fewer cars and therefore open up space for a better flow of public transportation, bikes, taxis and commercial traffic.

The days of the TTC relying on higher levels of government to cover shortfalls appear to be over. And if citizens don't want to consider changes to services, the task is to find practical ways to raise revenues.

The solution is to charge those who travel long distances on the TTC more than those who travel short distances. This cannot happen with antiquated paper transfers. Introducing zone-based fares or fares-by-distance would need some time to properly develop. And Metrolinx and the TTC would need to share the hefty upfront price for smartpass infrastructure to make this transition happen.

Instead of smarter pricing, all individual-fare TTC riders will face a 25 cent hike in January and Metropass users will face an extra levy of $12 per month.

While popular, last week's decision to give Metropass discounts to post-secondary students further delinks the cost of transit with what people pay.

Broad-based fare hikes carry the risk of losing ridership, whereas a distance-based fare plan need not mean fewer riders – it may make sense to cut fares for people living in the downtown core who cost less to transport. The case for riding the TTC would be made even stronger with tolls on the DVP or Gardiner.

Charging someone who lives in the suburbs the same amount as someone who lives downtown encourages wasteful sprawl, which is partly why GO Transit charges by distance, as do many other big-city transit systems.

Although the city's budget is in crisis mainly because of spending problems, smarter new revenue options can encourage environmentally friendly behaviour and reduce wasteful expenditures. They can help Toronto cope with its short-term and long-term budget problems. If the City of Toronto considers smarter revenue sources, something good might come out of the latest in the long line of budget crises at city hall.

In summary he calls for three things to raise money:
*Smart water pricing, which is already in progress
*Zoned TTC fares
*Congestion charges on the Gardiner and DVP
 
In summary he calls for three things to raise money:
*Smart water pricing, which is already in progress
*Zoned TTC fares
*Congestion charges on the Gardiner and DVP

I would not mind tolls on the Gardiner if every penny went to taking down the elevated expressway and not for any other item
 
I agree with zoned fares - so many other cities use this system.

However, many people might decide to drive instead if this were to happen... however, maybe not if accompanied by increased fees for driving (e.g. parking, toll to get into downtown, etc.)
 
A friend of mine has an ...

In summary he calls for three things to raise money:
*Smart water pricing, which is already in progress
*Zoned TTC fares
*Congestion charges on the Gardiner and DVP

Zoned TTC fares and congestion charges? So your friend's solution is to balance the books on the backs of the city's suburban residents who are probably least likely to be able to afford the extra tolls? Forget the 416. How do you think that'll go down the 905 that basically determines who runs the province? Not to mention the fact that tolling only these two highways will create a traffic and congestion nightmare on parallel arteries throughout the city. If you are going to charge a congestion charge, impose it by zone or not at all.

They should just bite the bullet and increase property taxes. All these alternatives are being discussed because the City councillors (right and left) are cowards and don't want to face the public wrath for their years of mismanagement.
 
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