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Federal Court of Appeal rules CN can continue building the hub.......... for now.

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Judge says construction on massive CN Rail hub in GTA can continue – for now

The judge said that while a halt to work on the $250-million project would have no effect on CN’s long-term viability, any delay is ‘detrimental to the public interest’
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From the above ( A Canadian Press item)

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rdaner said:
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Federal Court of Appeal dismisses challenge to construction of massive CN Rail hub in GTA

The $250-million project aims to double CN’s existing line of tracks in Milton, Ont., and construct a hub for containers to be transferred between trucks and trains
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Would this affect rail lines used by passenger rail?
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No passenger rail currently uses the Burlington to Milton line, so I think not.

I have no data, except my anecdotal observations, but there does seem to be more traffic on the line then ever before. I am not sure if accessible stats exist to prove this. it would be interesting to know.

Although many object to this use of lands at the location, to be fair to CN, they have owned the lands for 25 or more years and their intentions were known locally for a long , long time previous to actually beginning work on developing the site. A lot of politicians and developers chose to (wilfully?) ignore these plans when the idea of running a water line to Milton from Lake Ontario was first proposed, enabling the intensive development in Milton that we see today.
 
I posteds this in the Missing Link/ 407 freight bypass thread, but figured it would also be fitting to post in this thread.

Simply pointing out that if CN had agreed to construct the 407 freight bypass, the area right above the intersection of Trafalgar Rd & Steeles would have served as a better spot for an intermodal facility in Milton versus the current proposed location off of Tremain.

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Bojaxs said:
I posteds this in the Missing Link/ 407 freight bypass thread, but figured it would also be fitting to post in this thread.

Simply pointing out that if CN had agreed to construct the 407 freight bypass, the area right above the intersection of Trafalgar Rd & Steeles would have served as a better spot for an intermodal facility in Milton versus the current proposed location off of Tremain.

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That is interesting.

Follow up question then. The track in question (Halton SUbdivision - Burlington to Milton through the new intermodal yard) is rated at 286,000 lbs. And is double tracked from Burlington to the yard site, but only a single track through Milton? Do you think CN will ever need to double track the section through Milton? The costs of doing so would be substantial I would think with the track elevations and bridges required.
 
just east of the creek said:
That is interesting.

Follow up question then. The track in question (Halton SUbdivision - Burlington to Milton through the new intermodal yard) is rated at 286,000 lbs. And is double tracked from Burlington to the yard site, but only a single track through Milton? Do you think CN will ever need to double track the section through Milton? The costs of doing so would be substantial I would think with the track elevations and bridges required.
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Should they? Yeah.
Will they? Don't know.

Back in 2019, CN and CSX announced an agreement that would see CN moving more containers out of CSX's BUffalo yard and into Toronto and Montreal. These containers at CSX's Buffalo yard are typically coming from and going to the New York, Jersey and Philadelphia Ports. So this stretch of track is going to see an increase in rail traffic as the years go by. Right now we only load a couple trains per week for Buffalo, but I'm sure that'll increase over time.

CN and CSX Announce New Intermodal Service Offering | cn.ca

CN and CSX Announce New Intermodal Service Offering
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^My dusty memory of the published plans says that the amount of new double track being laid in connection with the yard is modest and mostly ensures that through trains can pass the yard while switching is gong on in the yard itself. It was seized on by the reporter likely as it's a more understandable detail for the average reader.
I also seem to recall CN saying that there would be an increase of one train a day in each direction upon opening, although clearly traffic will increase over time.
As to more broader double tracking of the Halton Sub, CN certainly has indicated that it had done initial planning and scoping at the system planning level - but as noted it would be a costly investment so is unlikely to happen until absolutely necessary. At the moment the line is pretty fluid and I don't expect CN will feel any need to do so anytime soon.

- Paul
 
The Federal Court of Appeals has ruled in favour of CN in respect of the Milton yard. Unless the appellants attempt to go to the Supreme Court, this one is done; regardless, work continues in the interim.

www.theglobeandmail.com

Federal Court of Appeal dismisses challenge to construction of massive CN Rail hub in GTA

The $250-million project aims to double CN’s existing line of tracks in Milton, Ont., and construct a hub for containers to be transferred between trucks and trains
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