[Calfaer]

I love the promenade. Used it a lot to both go for walks, cycle along it, and use a scooter when I lived in Oliver. It is absolutely fantastic, especially after the coffee food truck started setting up at LaMarchand Mansion on weekends. I just believe that it is largely fine as is. The street parking is great for when I go back to visit now, and residents of the neighborhood also appreciate having it around. There is not congestion on the low speed road, and really allows for the maximum amount of people to use the space. If bike lanes didn't take away from street use for cars or parking, then sure, throw it in. There isn't enough space to have it all, hence a choice having to be made. It's just a little sad that roads and parking that people actually use, are being taken away for bike lanes that aren't needed.

And any time someone uses the argument having to point out a an 8 year old and an 80 year old, they have a pretty weak argument. There already is a bike lane on 102 Ave, so I think people should be fine. If not, maybe they should look at some alternative forms of transportation.

The issue with this line of thinking is that sharing the road with cars as a biker is generally very unpleasant, particularly when you are sandwiched between moving cars and parked cars, even at low speeds. It's not particularly sad to remove parking and some road space from cars since cars basically have the entire city already designed for them. Instead of saying that bikers can just go use the bike lane on 102 Ave, why can't cars just park on another street? There is countless street parking spots and barren parking lots littered across downtown (and the city).

I'm also curious as to what the alternative form of transportation for biking would be? Bikes already are the alternative form of transportation. Is the suggestion that they should just drive? Because then they might end up taking those precious parking spots then and causing congestion.

 

[thommyjo]

I'm sorry, are you the authority on this Tommy? I do support bike lanes. Also, I do support parking and cars when warranted. You really need so stop coming off as so entitled.

Im sorry bro. I'm not trying to be rude, not my intention. But this is really serious to me and I don't think the trade offs are fair. If wanting my wife and kids to not have to bike next to 4000lbs of metal moving 40km/hr makes me entitled, but you wanting 15 parking spaces to remain isn't, I don't know what to say. Just does not seem like the right priorities for the safety and wellbeing of people. And I'm not trying to act like the authority, but you don't seem to want to acknowledge that there are studied and tested ways to do this stuff and your opinions are at odds with a lot of the literature on how to make cities safe for cycling. I'm just trying to advocate for what has worked in other cities.

 

[jason403]

That's fair, and you have every right to your opinions and I'm not saying you're wrong. For this particular location, our opinions differ.

 

[thommyjo]

That's fair, and you have every right to your opinions and I'm not saying you're wrong. For this particular location, our opinions differ.

Yeah, that’s cool man. No hard feelings! Thanks for sharing your perspectives.

 

[Platinum107]

The purpose of bike lanes is for the non 20-40s risk taking male cyclist. Or 90+% of the population.

Well Thommy, I just so happen to be an 18 YEAR OLD able-bodied male cyclist who bikes here regularly, so your argument is disproven!!1 /s

 

[Platinum107]

In all seriousness though, option 2 is literally the no-brainer here imo, and both lanes of the bike space should be on the south side of the road physically linked with the promenade. I just can't understand any other option besides #2.

 

[TAS]

In all seriousness though, option 2 is literally the no-brainer here imo, and both lanes of the bike space should be on the south side of the road physically linked with the promenade. I just can't understand any other option besides #2.

If both lanes are on south side of the road, which turns into the west side when getting to 121 Street, for those continuing north on 121, it won't make for a good transition to get to the east side of the street to continue on.

 

[Platinum107]

If both lanes are on south side of the road, which turns into the west side when getting to 121 Street, for those continuing north on 121, it won't make for a good transition to get to the east side of the street to continue on.

I guess that could be an issue. Either way, two-lane road-separated bike paths please.

 

[ntt1]

Unrelated to bike lanes, I'm really excited for the completion of this project, supposedly sometime in the spring. It's a pretty well-travelled MUP for cyclists in the SW of the city, or those going to Cameron Heights out to Devon, and the upgrades were loooong overdue.

 

[Airboy]

This trail was in real need of upgrading. And having Malina's bakery up at the end is quite helpful. Looking forward to riding it later this year when I do my Henday to Henday loop.

 

[soupcrate]

Does anyone know when the E-Scooters are returning? I haven't seen any news about it yet. Last year the scooters came back on March 17th, but spring came a lot earlier last year.

 

[ChazYEG]

Does anyone know when the E-Scooters are returning? I haven't seen any news about it yet. Last year the scooters came back on March 17th, but spring came a lot earlier last year.

Supposed to be next week, at least for lime

 

[soupcrate]

Supposed to be next week, at least for lime

Dope! Is this public anywhere, or insider baseball?

 

[ChazYEG]

Dope! Is this public anywhere, or insider baseball?

I read it somewhere, but I've got an inside track with them, indeed.

 

[CplKlinger]

The city now has a project page for filling missing links and constructing new area networks.