Barnaby
Active Member
I don't think the city administration has the intellectual ability to pull off a city run bike share.
I would love a BIXI or CITI style system, but I only trust Lime to implement it.
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I would love a BIXI or CITI style system, but I only trust Lime to implement it.
fromyeg
Active Member
City run bike share would be great. Could use Arc card (hopefully Arc app eventually) for a bike. It would make it easy to link bike and transit trips. It would be much more affordable than Lime.
Tricky part would be the implementation and operation. Also tricky would be whether there would be public support for funding such a program (at the moment I don’t think there would be.)
But if the City wants to meet its City Plan goal of 50% of trips being active or public transportation it would be a positive move for sure.
Tricky part would be the implementation and operation. Also tricky would be whether there would be public support for funding such a program (at the moment I don’t think there would be.)
But if the City wants to meet its City Plan goal of 50% of trips being active or public transportation it would be a positive move for sure.
TAS
Senior Member
E-scooter operators remain bullish on Edmonton region
Despite bankruptcies in other countries and bans in other cities, micromobility operators say shared e-scooters and e-bikes aren't rolling out of the Edmonton region any time soon.edmonton.taproot.news
That's a lot of trips on top of the 250k trips from Bird - about 1.2 million trips logged when combined with Lime.
"Lime had e-scooters and e-bikes in 2023 that were only available in Edmonton. Still, the company said it logged 920,000 trips in 2023, nearly triple the amount of rides in 2022, and saw particularly high demand across the summer months. “Edmonton was one of the top cities not just in Canada, not just in North America, but in the world this summer,” Tugendrajch said.
JuliallThat
Active Member
A city run, or contracted bike share would be great. We could take some inspiration from Oslo too; they swap on winter tires to their bikes and keep them available all winter too.
trevorhayden
Active Member
Doesn't Bird or Lime offer e-bikes as part of their fleet? That can be expanded to winter.
thommyjo
Senior Member
Toronto and Montreal just have such good bike shares. And although we aren’t the same size, density, downtown pop, etc, I can’t imagine we don’t see good success even just from recreational river valley riding in the summer.
It’s also another key datapoint as we work for cycling to expand. Right now, we use silly data like “biking for commuting” in the census, or a handful of bike counters around the city. None of those are great. But growth in trips taken on a city bike share are a huge way to show demand and growth in usage.
It’s also another key datapoint as we work for cycling to expand. Right now, we use silly data like “biking for commuting” in the census, or a handful of bike counters around the city. None of those are great. But growth in trips taken on a city bike share are a huge way to show demand and growth in usage.
ChazYEG
Senior Member
They both do, and I'd love to see them available through winter
northlands
Senior Member
Kosy123
Active Member
More lime scooters > more cars on the road
Frankly I’d love for some sort of city wide statistics on active transportation, like daily bike and scooter traffic on major routes in a really easy visual format.
Having that sort of information be easily accessible and easy to share would shut up some naysayers about this whole issue.
Frankly I’d love for some sort of city wide statistics on active transportation, like daily bike and scooter traffic on major routes in a really easy visual format.
Having that sort of information be easily accessible and easy to share would shut up some naysayers about this whole issue.
thommyjo
Senior Member
Some data here:
Daily Pedestrian and Bicycle Counts Graph | Edmonton - Open Data Portal
This dataset contains bicycle only or bicycle and pedestrian counts that are currently being monitored at 18 locations along the new bike lanes in addition to some key cyclist/.pedestrian traffic areas. Note: Within this data, it is possible that a full day's worth of data may be incomplete...
Used to be a monthly visual somewhere as well, but I can’t find that.
Kosy123
Active Member
Oh heck yeah!Some data here:
Daily Pedestrian and Bicycle Counts Graph | Edmonton - Open Data Portal
This dataset contains bicycle only or bicycle and pedestrian counts that are currently being monitored at 18 locations along the new bike lanes in addition to some key cyclist/.pedestrian traffic areas. Note: Within this data, it is possible that a full day's worth of data may be incomplete...data.edmonton.ca
Used to be a monthly visual somewhere as well, but I can’t find that.
I do wish there were some visuals/map data of sorts that was easily digestible for the general public.
IanO
Superstar
There used to be a very nice dashboard that was intended for the public and to share things such as this...
BrettB
Active Member
Tom at Shifter did an interesting video on Paris' cycle infrastructure transformation. There are lessons here for every North American city, including Edmonton.
TAS
Senior Member
Edmonton hosting Winter Cycling Conference today and tomorrow at Westin. Met officials from Finland as well as US (Anchorage, Minneapolis Boston) and Canada (Toronto, Montreal).
There was interesting presentation by officials from Canmore.
In 2015, they had a mode share of 15% for walking, biking, transit and in 2023 that increased to 32%.
Key things they did were adding new multi use paths and bike lanes, remodel some intersections, reduce some traffic lanes, and reduce speed limits to 30Km/hr on collector roads and some other locations.
One of the bolder moves however was eliminating free parking and instead offering free transit. The new parking revenue covers about 50% of what was lost from transit revenue.
Canmore residents do still get up to 3 hours of free parking per day in the main dt parking area using an app, but people can't just park their vehicles all day like previously.
Impressive to see increase in mode share for active transportation.
Also impressive was the story of Montreal's Bixi bike share program - 3rd largest in North America (NY is #1). Montreal's bike share is now all year round and in 2023 they achieved 11.5 million rides. They have 800 docking stations and average trip length is 3km and often coincides with other means of travel such as transit or walking to get to final destination.
Tomorrow I'm looking forward to hearing from Don Iveson. Sohi provided opening remarks today and shared funny story of growing up Alin India and riding his dad's bike that was way too big for him. Councillors Janz and Salvador were there all day.
There was interesting presentation by officials from Canmore.
In 2015, they had a mode share of 15% for walking, biking, transit and in 2023 that increased to 32%.
Key things they did were adding new multi use paths and bike lanes, remodel some intersections, reduce some traffic lanes, and reduce speed limits to 30Km/hr on collector roads and some other locations.
One of the bolder moves however was eliminating free parking and instead offering free transit. The new parking revenue covers about 50% of what was lost from transit revenue.
Canmore residents do still get up to 3 hours of free parking per day in the main dt parking area using an app, but people can't just park their vehicles all day like previously.
Impressive to see increase in mode share for active transportation.
Also impressive was the story of Montreal's Bixi bike share program - 3rd largest in North America (NY is #1). Montreal's bike share is now all year round and in 2023 they achieved 11.5 million rides. They have 800 docking stations and average trip length is 3km and often coincides with other means of travel such as transit or walking to get to final destination.
Tomorrow I'm looking forward to hearing from Don Iveson. Sohi provided opening remarks today and shared funny story of growing up Alin India and riding his dad's bike that was way too big for him. Councillors Janz and Salvador were there all day.
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Gronk!
Senior Member
How's the attendance at the Winter Cycling Conference? Think it will be an annual event?