TTCdinosaur
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It’s amazing to see Canadian bureaucracy continue to eat itself.
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afransen
Senior Member
What happens if congestion doesn't improve after the vehicle lanes are added back in? Does that count as evidence that bike lanes didn't cause congestion?
Northern Light
Superstar
The text of the item on the ERO is now available. (change in respect of cycle track removal)
From the above:
Live link for those who would care to submit comments to the government on this idea:
* note, the relevant legislation has not yet passed second reading. The government is certainly in a position to pass it and follow up on it, should they see fit to do so. But there is no active program to remove any cycle tracks just yet.
From the above:
Live link for those who would care to submit comments to the government on this idea:
* note, the relevant legislation has not yet passed second reading. The government is certainly in a position to pass it and follow up on it, should they see fit to do so. But there is no active program to remove any cycle tracks just yet.
enter username
Active Member
One option of civil disobedience could be for motivated safety advocates to repaint the lanes at night…
taal
Senior Member
Simple question, who pays ?
christiesplits
Senior Member
Ford will start going after streetcars and at-grade LRT lines.
TTCdinosaur
Active Member
I love how people defended drivers by saying road design was bad so they drove badly. We redesigned the road for complete streets and they just wrote to Doug Ford to get rid of them. Turns out it is just rotten people all along 
But do not worry, you will be notified in the Queens Gazette as your safety is removed and you will be given space to comment and the bureaucrats will be sure to let you know how to follow due process.
But do not worry, you will be notified in the Queens Gazette as your safety is removed and you will be given space to comment
and the bureaucrats will be sure to let you know how to follow due process.Bojaxs
Senior Member
Drivers are going to realize very quickly that they never could drive in these lanes to begin with because of all the idiots who stopped in these lanes with their hazard lights on. The protected cycle lanes helped to bring that annoying practice to an end. Unless you were a real asshole and just decided to stop in the only lane and put your hazards on and entirely block traffic.
Don't tease. Let's hope he starts with the eastern stretch of the Eglington line.
TTCdinosaur
Active Member
The point is that everyone must suffer equally. This is not about fact or reason, which is why reasoned responses won’t work.
drum118
Superstar
Was on Davenport today and they are rebuilding the westbound lanes from Bedford to Dupont and putting in true bike lane raise to match the sidewalk level with a curb between it and the road. Eastbound will be done next after construction is finished for the westbound as well the condo being built there as well. I expect the next phase will be to Avenue Rd. No photos
turini2
Active Member
Surely there's a lawsuit waiting to happen when a very sad fatality inevitably happens...
Admiral Beez
Superstar
If Torontonians want to keep their bike lanes, they need to fight to keep them. And no, that doesn’t mean slacktivism on social media, retweeting words of hope, or liking a “save the bike lanes” Facebook page, or non-digital actions like wearing a ribbon on your shirt or putting a "Bike Lanes Save Lives" sign on your property to bring awareness to bike lanes. Nor will voting matter unless a province-wide campaign (or coalition of multi-issue campaigns) takes root that threatens the PC majority, since with few exceptions (namely the Fords) we already don’t have PC MPPs in the city. Nor will a few days of hundreds of cyclists riding up University in protest, ringing their bells and blocking traffic. This government doesn’t not give a fig about protests. No, if you want to keep the bike lanes, you need to physically block their removal.
What I find frustrating is that the city government has seemingly not prepared for Queen's Park's intervention whatsoever, even though Doug Ford has been complaining about bike lanes since at least 2018 when he threatened to remove bike lanes. If Toronto city hall had thus prepared, we’d see Mayor Chow today on the media news presenting well-researched counter arguments to Ford’s claims that bike lanes do not in fact cause congestion. And why didn’t the city get buy in from the BIAs and neighbourhood associations where bike lanes were proposed? And especially in Etobicoke where the Ford's rule? This seems the low hanging fruit that could be waved in the Premier’s face.
And while we’re all it, maybe our city government should not have strangled vehicular traffic of all types by permitting private sector developers (building investor micro condos that no one wants nor solved our housing crisis) to block lanes of traffic across the city. As it is, if the city argues that it’s construction not bike lanes that cause congestion, the obvious retort would be, but you also allowed developers to block the roadspace.
And why is the traffic warden initiative taking so long to expand? That’s what gets traffic moving.
Post-removal lawsuits will make lawyers rich with fees, but are irrelevant in keeping the bike lanes. It’s legal action now, before their removal, demonstrating the financial and legal risk to the city that may help.
What I find frustrating is that the city government has seemingly not prepared for Queen's Park's intervention whatsoever, even though Doug Ford has been complaining about bike lanes since at least 2018 when he threatened to remove bike lanes. If Toronto city hall had thus prepared, we’d see Mayor Chow today on the media news presenting well-researched counter arguments to Ford’s claims that bike lanes do not in fact cause congestion. And why didn’t the city get buy in from the BIAs and neighbourhood associations where bike lanes were proposed? And especially in Etobicoke where the Ford's rule? This seems the low hanging fruit that could be waved in the Premier’s face.
And while we’re all it, maybe our city government should not have strangled vehicular traffic of all types by permitting private sector developers (building investor micro condos that no one wants nor solved our housing crisis) to block lanes of traffic across the city. As it is, if the city argues that it’s construction not bike lanes that cause congestion, the obvious retort would be, but you also allowed developers to block the roadspace.
And why is the traffic warden initiative taking so long to expand? That’s what gets traffic moving.
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generalcanada
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Admiral Beez
Superstar
Silly me, fixed that. thx
DSC
Superstar
WE DO. Through our Provincial taxes.