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That one single station would handle 40,000 riders daily. And that's using today's figures. With future growth it could be upwards of ~50,000 riders boarding at STC - placing it in the Top Ten of most used stations.

So it is more than justified. Better that than trying to make the SRT corridor a thing. It has never met expectations and never will.
31,000 riders in 2031. And you need to build 6km of subway to get there. No other 6km stretch of subway has only 31,000 riders.
 
31,000 riders in 2031. And you need to build 6km of subway to get there. No other 6km stretch of subway has only 31,000 riders.

Again, the misconception that it will be one-stop indefinitely rears its head. Better to get the major piece of infrastructure (the tunnel) built as soon as possible and worry about infilling missing stops later.
 
Again, the misconception that it will be one-stop indefinitely rears its head. Better to get the major piece of infrastructure (the tunnel) built as soon as possible and worry about infilling missing stops later.
How is this a misconception? Filling in missing stops later is very rare. It's only been done once in Toronto's history.
 
How is this a misconception? Filling in missing stops later is very rare. It's only been done once in Toronto's history.

It's also very, very expensive. It could very well cost billions of dollars to add two stations at a later date. As far as I'm concerned, they should either be added now or never.
 
That one single station would handle 40,000 riders daily. And that's using today's figures. With future growth it could be upwards of ~50,000 riders boarding at STC - placing it in the Top Ten of most used stations.

That's because they got rid of all of the other stations. Had they kept the stop on Sheppard for example, half of the buses that currently go to STC will terminate at Sheppard instead, therefore the ridership at STC station would drop accordingly, and your excuse that it's among the "top ten used stations" would no longer be valid.
 
That one single station would handle 40,000 riders daily. And that's using today's figures. With future growth it could be upwards of ~50,000 riders boarding at STC - placing it in the Top Ten of most used stations.

So it is more than justified. Better that than trying to make the SRT corridor a thing. It has never met expectations and never will.
Like how are they going to get the buses there? Ever been to Progress and McCowan?
 
It's amazing how some Scarborough subway supporters feel the need to defend its low ridership by calling for existing subway stations (after money was already spend to build them decades ago) to be shut down. Such an utterly stupid excuse for spending $3-4B on one single station that was never properly justified to begin with.
That one single station would handle 40,000 riders daily. And that's using today's figures. With future growth it could be upwards of ~50,000 riders boarding at STC - placing it in the Top Ten of most used stations.

So it is more than justified. Better that than trying to make the SRT corridor a thing. It has never met expectations and never will.
The subways* are here to end an argument. That's all. Ridership debates are kind of point less.


*Sheppard will get built.
 
The subways* are here to end an argument. That's all. Ridership debates are kind of point less.

And also to:

-shut up the voices that demand Respect For Scarborough (that should be a bumper sticker) for god knows what reason
-get John Tory and vultures like Glenn De Baermaker voted in Scarborough.

Now that's it.

Ridership debates are irrelevant.
 
http://www.torontosun.com/2016/07/1...editors-scarborough-town-centre-is-not-remote

I could find far far worse articles of bias than the one she attacks in this article. But more interesting to see the Conservative ramping up the subway support on the transit file. They were quiet for so long.. Possibly due to the bi-election coming up. Always hard to believe the Cons wanting to fund anything that causes a tax hike but nice to hear someone in the media fighting for Scarborough.
 
http://www.torontosun.com/2016/07/1...editors-scarborough-town-centre-is-not-remote

I could find far far worse articles of bias than the one she attacks in this article. But more interesting to see the Conservative ramping up the subway support on the transit file. They were quiet for so long.. Possibly due to the bi-election coming up. Always hard to believe the Cons wanting to fund anything that causes a tax hike but nice to hear someone in the media fighting for Scarborough.
"And the so-called one-stop subway isn’t actually new. It will replace the existing LRT — a poorly-constructed piece of work". This is inaccurate as presently it is not an LRT
 
"And the so-called one-stop subway isn’t actually new. It will replace the existing LRT — a poorly-constructed piece of work". This is inaccurate as presently it is not an LRT

Yes lots of inaccuracies, stretched truths and convenient slant.. Just the same but with an opposite viewpoint of what's in the hundreds of Star opinion pieces. Too bad a few people can only see this from one side
 
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Scarborough needed to get it's pork. They were getting jealous that Vaughan gets a subway to nowhere, (aka VMC) but SCC a part of Toronto gets 2nd rate transit. Those that care about transit want people to get better service and larger coverage area. The politicians want to give SCC some wasteful pork project to buy votes. It's no different than the Vaughan extension. Yes Vaughan has more useful stops, but not by many. It's almost the same price for similar distance. Only 3 stops will get much usage will be between Finch and Steeles. The other 3 stops will be ghost towns the rest of the time, not to mention that the extension will leave Sheppard West (formerly Downsview) fairly empty, since the 196 Rocket ridership will be gone.

Hopefully this decision (however bad) will get something build in Scarborough. If Keesmat gets her way politically, all 3 projects will be built: SmartTrack/RER, 1 stop subway and EC E LRT.
 
"And the so-called one-stop subway isn’t actually new. It will replace the existing LRT — a poorly-constructed piece of work". This is inaccurate as presently it is not an LRT

Isn't it technically still LRT? Just an older version?

If it's not light rail then what is it?
 
That's because they got rid of all of the other stations. Had they kept the stop on Sheppard for example, half of the buses that currently go to STC will terminate at Sheppard instead, therefore the ridership at STC station would drop accordingly, and your excuse that it's among the "top ten used stations" would no longer be valid.

Exactly. I wonder how many riders would use Yonge if they removed Spadina, Bay, St. George and Sherbourne. :p

Kipling has almost 60,000 riders a day, but there's 4 stations within 6 kilometers of it that handle another ~93,000.

Even removing access to other stations, we're hoping at some point in future decades SC will approach the ridership of Kipling alone.
 

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